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Old 06-01-2014, 04:00 PM   #1
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Default Cant get MS2 running, please help

Ive been trying for a few weeks to get my car(91 miata with 1.6 and flyin miata turbo) running and have had no success. The car ran a few months ago when i first installed it then a few days later it would not run. Since then ive been trying to figure out what was wrong with it.

Now a few days ago my hard drive crashed on my computer and i lost all my files and when i tied loading the original settings for the miata on tunerstudio and connected I get an error message and it will not spark. I can post the error its showing but i dont know how to fix it.

Is there anyone who can send me the settings for everything on their setup that is similar to mine so i can get this thing running or anyone who i can send my megasquirt to who could sort out my issues?

Im not that goo with electronics and i simply wanted something simple to operate but this is killing me and it is getting way more involved than i wanted to get.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:02 PM   #2
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Would you guys recommend that I just sell this MS2(it came with the turbo kit) and buy a MSPNP2? Im not looking to learn how to get too in depth with tuning(i dont want to have over 200hp as i will be autoX the car) and I also just want something reliable as it is my DD too
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Old 06-02-2014, 04:07 PM   #3
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Ok, I'm going to be nice and reply and try not to be too much of an a-hole:

1. The MS2 and MSPNP2 use the same software, so it doesn't matter which one you use, you will have the same issue.
2. A simple search will bring up a base MAP from DIYAutotune (and 100 others) as far as a baseline.
3. Posting an error msg or the MSQ files would help.
4. If you get an error message, most likely it won't spark.
5. We need to know what your issue is first before sending you anything. This has nothing to do with electronics, it's all software setting. You might want to read up on MegaSquirt and how to tune generally before you attempt to start the car and blow up your house! The radioactive core in the engine might overheat and bad things will happen!!! BE WARNED!
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Old 06-02-2014, 04:24 PM   #4
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Ok, thanks for the reply.

I knew that they used the same software but i figured maybe the PNP setup may be easier as there is less wiring i would have to deal with.

I have done alot of research on megasquirt before i even thought about putting it in, i just dont learn well from reading. I just graduated from MECHANICAL engineering so im good with numbers and hands on(mechanical work such as engine building, carb tuning, head porting,etc) so this whole standalone setup is a scare for me as ive always had trouble with vehicle electronics and computers

One of the reasons im trouble i think is that i went through a tutorial to get some stuff sorted properly and may have made a few changes that could be casusing some problems and that is what im looking for mostly is the other settings such as ignition, injector parameters, etc.

Ill try and get that error message up here in a few minutes. I wish i had someone local because i dont learn this stuff well by reading, i learn by hands on or someone teaching me
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Old 06-02-2014, 04:35 PM   #5
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Ok here are the 3 screen shots of the errors im getting

BTW whenever im on Mini Terminal to view the error, tuner studio freezes and i have to shut it down with task manager, idk if that is relevant.

That is actually what happened then my hard drive crashed when that happened before and i lost everything on my computer, they may not be related but thats what happened
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Old 06-02-2014, 04:41 PM   #6
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You tried to use D14 or D16 as a programmable output, which is not right as these are your spark outputs.
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OK, so how do i fix that? is that programming or is that hardware? I dont recall ever messing with that
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Under "Basic Setup" should be a input/output section I believe if the menu on Alpha 3.3 is the same should be called "Feature list showing I/O pins"
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Sorry, i dont see that anywhere, maybe the menus are a bit different or im just blind lol
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ok so i did some more searching and these are the only two things i found that seem to be in the right type of changes, but none of them made a difference. When i tied to change the outputs for ignition it just gave me an error that said that the Tachometer outputs were wrong
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See how in the first picture the PM4 is green, go and see why that is. That's one of the ignition outputs. When you click on it, it shouldn't be enabled.
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Ok, so i disabled that port, it was setup as a warning for for the coolant temperature, idk why.
Anyway, the error went away but the car still wont start. It spins over fine and has spark but does not sound like it even wants to run. What would be the next thing to help diagnose the issue? Should i run a datalog while trying to crank?
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Can you post your MSQ file please
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here it is
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File Type: msq 2014-06-03_23.27.05.msq (99.5 KB, 26 views)
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Well looks like your spark output is on JS10 and not D14. Do you have an old msq file you can load on this thing?
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I installed a msq file that was a base for the miata so now I'm getting better results. The only thing is that it does not want to stay running. It only runs for a few seconds then dies. I'll get an update if I can't figure it out
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Here is my current MSQ file and a data log when i was trying to get it running. If you guys see anything that needs to be corrected please let me know. Thanks
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File Type: csv 2014-06-04_14.29.50.csv (8.6 KB, 25 views)
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Do you know what injectors are in the car?
And does the car have a wideband oxygen sensor?
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stock 230cc injectors(future plans i have 550cc)
innovate LC-2 wideband
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:13 PM   #20
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That appears to be a ignition log and not a datalog. And that MSQ you attached has the JS10 as the ignition. Really hard to help without knowing if D10 or JS10 are used for primary ignition. Back to the beginning... this MS2, was it used with the turbo kit or did it come with a kit you bought (BEGI?)
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