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240_to_miata 07-28-2010 09:25 PM

CLT & TPS noise
 
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So I have been experiencing some of the random RPM spike issues that have been seen by others. I have been researching and getting ready to do the Abe NB mod. Due to this thread:
https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquirt-18/misfiring-while-cruising-seems-get-worse-when-hot-46772/

I looked back at my log and found A LOT of noise in my CLT and TPS. I believe this is related. What is causing this noise and how can I fix it?

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redrider706 07-29-2010 12:51 AM

Try the cap on the boot jumper on the mail board mod. I helped me a lot.

-Raj

240_to_miata 07-29-2010 06:11 AM

Yeah I would like specifics on that mod. I have MS1 and looking thru the info it seems like this is a MS2 fix. Does it install on the daughter board?

240_to_miata 07-29-2010 07:19 AM

You know I was thinking thismorning. ... All 3 of t he signals I have noise on are the ones i am sharing with the stock ecu

Braineack 07-29-2010 08:23 AM

...which all share the same ground.

240_to_miata 07-29-2010 08:26 AM

Bingo! My iat has no noise but it is grounded locally I think

Solutions????

redrider706 07-29-2010 06:43 PM

The cap is supposed to go across the boot jumper on the main board. I don't know if it will work for MS1.

240_to_miata 07-29-2010 06:49 PM

What size?

Braineack 07-29-2010 06:52 PM

try a .1uF, .22uF or .33uF

240_to_miata 07-29-2010 06:55 PM

I'll give it a shot. How does putting a cap across the boot jumper help clean the signal? Won't that essentially short it out?

redrider706 07-29-2010 06:58 PM

I put a .22uF. I also have a .22uF and a 3300uF across the 12V coming in.

Braineack 07-29-2010 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 609337)
I'll give it a shot. How does putting a cap across the boot jumper help clean the signal? Won't that essentially short it out?


electronics run on magic.

240_to_miata 07-29-2010 08:38 PM

Good enough answer for me lol

Greenie 07-29-2010 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 609376)
electronics run on magic.

I'm pretty sure they run on smoke.

Every time I let the smoke out of electronics they stop working.

Matt Cramer 07-30-2010 09:28 AM

Try grounding the sensors to the MS instead of the stock ECU; what's the stock ECU need an accurate reading for? :D

240_to_miata 07-30-2010 09:32 AM

Haha. The grounds are currently all tied together in the harness. How should I separate them?

240_to_miata 08-01-2010 05:00 PM

AN UPDATE:

-I tried installing Abes NB input mod...it didnt work. I looked over my circuit and it looks fine. I went back to my original circuit and the car started right up.

- Separated stock and MS grounds. Made a better connection... ms has 6awg wire all the way back to the battery ground.

- Installed .22uf cap across boot jumper

I am bumed out the nb circuit didnt work. IDK why. It wouldn't crank, oem tach didn't work, ms tach showed about half of the actual value.

The CAP seemed to work... sorda. I took it for a 5 minute drive getting on boost and bringing it into high rpm. It didnt break up or anything, but the log shows there was still SOME noise. Should I try a different size cap?
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Braineack 08-01-2010 05:17 PM

a larger 3300uF cap fro.m 12v to gnd might help too

turotufas 08-01-2010 05:24 PM

Pics please? I'm intrigued by this but I'm a visual learner. :o

240_to_miata 08-01-2010 05:26 PM

I'll post screen shots and pics later

redrider706 08-01-2010 07:34 PM

Abe's input circuit will reverse the polarity of the signals. You should change the "Ignition input capture" setting to the inverse of what it is now.

-Raj

240_to_miata 08-01-2010 07:36 PM

Ugh really? Oh well I don't feel like doing it any time soon... Maybe next weekend

240_to_miata 08-01-2010 08:33 PM

does MS1 even allow you to invert the input in the software? I couldnt find it

redrider706 08-01-2010 10:56 PM

I don't know if MS1 has that option. I am running a MS2 setup.

Braineack 08-02-2010 08:32 AM

yes, you can change from rising to falling edge and vise versa. You should have looked at your composite log while cranking to see what it was looking like.

240_to_miata 08-02-2010 09:15 AM

Me + anger + frustration = lack of patients

I plan on tearing back into it next weekend and I will spend more time diagnosing the issue.

240_to_miata 09-21-2010 05:33 PM

I HAVE CLEAN SIGNALS!!
It is really freaking amazing.

My problem was the stock ECU. I was missing some grounds to it so it was feeding back noise through the MS. I ditched it and went to full standalone and id never look back :)


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