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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 05:50 PM
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Car is a 1992 Miata with a stock 1.6

so I went to set the base timing. put the ignition to fixed 10 degrees. i look at my timing marks with a light and its vertical, like 40 degrees off! I advanced the CAS all the way and still 20 degrees retarded. Now pulling 47 kpa at idle, before it was in the 20's.

Any guesses?!?!? Can I get a good base timing # from kpa...


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Old Mar 24, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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what year car
is the cas upside-down? or the settings are inverted somehow?
Old Mar 24, 2017 | 06:49 PM
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Car is a 1992 1.6. Cas is on there right side up. I put the timing light on the #1 spark plug, its so far off it doesnt make sense that it would run if the timing was really that far retarded
Old Mar 24, 2017 | 06:55 PM
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If I use the trigger adjustment and add another 15* it barely runs and wont rev, but the timing mark is the the right place:

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Confirm that the timing marks are correct. Put #1 piston at TDC and make sure the marks line up
Old Mar 24, 2017 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by aidandj
Confirm that the timing marks are correct. Put #1 piston at TDC and make sure the marks line up
good call
Old Mar 24, 2017 | 08:04 PM
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Damper slipped, must be replaced
Old Mar 24, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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no, the previous owner put some creative markings on it that i took as the timing marks.
Old Mar 24, 2017 | 10:46 PM
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spun keyway? was that fixed by 92?

edit: nvm I didnt refresh the thread before I replied. Looks like OP got it sorted.
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Originally Posted by mr steve
no, the previous owner put some creative markings on it that i took as the timing marks.
Did this cause you to incorrectly adjust the CAS? Trying to diagnose a similar problem, wondering what you changed to fix your startup?
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Originally Posted by Tokeyo
Did this cause you to incorrectly adjust the CAS? Trying to diagnose a similar problem, wondering what you changed to fix your startup?
Yes it did. I found the real timing mark by using an 1/4" extension to verify top dead center on #1.... Also, be sure to check that you are setting IGNITION timing to 10* as the screens look a little different on the newer Tuner studio...




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