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bryantaylor 12-24-2007 04:47 PM

DIY autotune's maps rock!
 
you can really tell the time they put in those maps. i just changed the req fuel for my 330s, richened up the idle some. and went for a drive to see how far the map is off. well, its almost dead on! running 9psi on a 13g turbo. WOT afr was right around 12flat all the way accross!!!! just need to lean out the cruise, but thats basically it, but its actually close enough that 02 corection could take care of. :bowdown: :bigtu: GREAT job guys!

hustler 12-24-2007 11:37 PM

Yeah, I was very impressed with the NA maps. Same here, just leaned out the cruise and I'm done until the turbo install.

Arkmage 12-24-2007 11:48 PM

meh.. something must be off the wall in my application but I couldn't get their map to run worth a crap. I had to get one from cjernigan. the spark map is also overly conservative in boost and it causes a bit of a studder in my car at the transition point. I had to advance the timing map by about 4-5 degrees in the first boost row and 2-3 in the second to smooth it out.

Trent 12-24-2007 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by bryantaylor (Post 189339)
you can really tell the time they put in those maps. i just changed the req fuel for my 330s, richened up the idle some. and went for a drive to see how far the map is off. well, its almost dead on! running 9psi on a 13g turbo. WOT afr was right around 12flat all the way accross!!!! just need to lean out the cruise, but thats basically it, but its actually close enough that 02 corection could take care of. :bowdown: :bigtu: GREAT job guys!

Well, that's good news. I haven't quite gotten that far yet. I'm having idle issues myself. and the warmup enrichments seem off, but it's coming along. once the car is warmed up it seems to idle great. accel enrichment needs just a little tweaking.

Bottom line is i need to install my wideband before i go another single step.

bryantaylor 12-25-2007 12:23 AM

my startup still sucks, but the rest seems ok.

Saml01 12-25-2007 12:50 AM

DIY Autotunes map is dead on. I get like 15:1 in cruise. 13 - 14:1 at WOT. Idle had to be tweaked a bit, but its pretty awesome and im getting great fuel mileage to boot.

paul 12-25-2007 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 189442)
DIY Autotunes map is dead on. I get like 15:1 in cruise. 13 - 14:1 at WOT. Idle had to be tweaked a bit, but its pretty awesome and im getting great fuel mileage to boot.

hopefully you aren't turbo'd yet

Saml01 12-25-2007 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by paul (Post 189467)
hopefully you aren't turbo'd yet

No. Not turboed. id be worried if it was that under WOT. lol.

Ben 12-25-2007 12:03 PM

basemaps
 
These things are called basemaps for a reason. The VE and spark maps should be fairly close, but realistically expect to have to tweak everything to get your car running right. Your mods, your fuel, your altitude, and even wear on your parts will be different than everybody else's car on the forum.

bryantaylor 12-25-2007 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 189504)
These things are called basemaps for a reason. The VE and spark maps should be fairly close, but realistically expect to have to tweak everything to get your car running right. Your mods, your fuel, your altitude, and even wear on your parts will be different than everybody else's car on the forum.

+1 i was expecting them to be just close enough to letthe car kinda run, but was plesently suprised.

240_to_miata 12-25-2007 02:44 PM

they are great. i had some errors with using the exact one, even tho they made my car start first try.... i took all the values and put them into a new MSQ and im able to drive around nicely. awesome!

bryantaylor 12-25-2007 03:52 PM

now watch there be a tread where someone didnt bother to see if they were close and they blew their motor, LOL

240_to_miata 12-25-2007 04:00 PM

haha, hey i didnt say i wasnt tuning.... i said it was "close"

i sure as hell hope im not the 1 to blow my motor

92MX5 12-25-2007 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by bryantaylor (Post 189545)
now watch there be a tread where someone didnt bother to see if they were close and they blew their motor, LOL

Easy to do: all someone has to do is get the req_fuel setting "close", get the car barely started, and danger COULD ensue. Personally, I'm very happy with how well the base maps work, but they do need tuning for every individual car.

Jeff

Saml01 12-25-2007 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 189504)
These things are called basemaps for a reason. The VE and spark maps should be fairly close, but realistically expect to have to tweak everything to get your car running right. Your mods, your fuel, your altitude, and even wear on your parts will be different than everybody else's car on the forum.

Def.

I had to tweak the IAT compensation to deal with heatsoak, warm up enrichments needed tweaking, ASE needed tweaking, cranking needed tweaking, idle needed tweaking, and a few other things. The fuel and spark map are pretty dead on but a lot of the other stuff is pretty car specific.

Ben 12-25-2007 08:10 PM

Looks like you guys get it, but I've been seeing people bitch that the basemaps weren't perfectly dialed in for their cars. When at least they come with pretty decent basemaps. Look at most EMS systems and they come with NOTHING.

bryantaylor 12-25-2007 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 189605)
but I've been seeing people bitch that the basemaps weren't perfectly dialed in for their cars.

those are probally the same people that dont even know how to change their oil, but want a fast car without learning anything :bigtu:

timk 12-27-2007 05:15 PM

Just fitted my MSPNP last night, freaking sweet... Now I just gotta sort my variable TPS so it doesn't keep stalling when backing off quickly with the air con going. :)


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