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brgracer 01-25-2007 09:06 PM

Do NOT order from kingof1337!!!
 
I am not one to post something like this, but this is getting ridiculous unless Adam is sick in a hospital or something. He has had my $$$ for over a month, AND he sent a PM in NOVEMBER that my MS was 90% wired up.

I have been more than reasonable in waiting as I have spent the past two weeks PMing him, e-mailing him, and calling him several times and leaving a message with NO response. Not even a hey, it's taking me more time than I expected. I have not heard from him for 1 entire month.

Adam, if you read this, I expect to hear from you within one week or I will pursue legal recourse, and yes, that is a threat.

Furthermore, god forbid I actually get my MS and need some support or information.

A BIG :td: for kingof1337 aka Adam Martin.

miatamania 01-25-2007 09:12 PM

dang...still no word?

olderguy 01-25-2007 09:14 PM

OK, everybody send the parts back to Tom that you got from him. He needs the car back up and running for track days.

krayzrac3r 01-25-2007 09:15 PM

hmm thats not good to hear at all...hes going to be working on my megasquirt soon (money has already been wired through paypal) They say hes pretty busy so i sort of understand. But I dont know... i just want a megasquirt and want it done

brgracer 01-25-2007 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by krayzrac3r (Post 75372)
hmm thats not good to hear at all...hes going to be working on my megasquirt soon (money has already been wired through paypal) They say hes pretty busy so i sort of understand. But I dont know... i just want a megasquirt and want it done

Like I said, I can understand if he needs more time, but I have not had a single response to any form of communication despite many attempts. I tried looking him up by address and phone number but no luck. BTW, what is his paypal e-mail ID? Thanks.

Savington 01-25-2007 09:50 PM

Wow. I was going to go through him for my '94 MS, but hell with it if he'll take money and not answer anything for a month. Unless he plans on dying from whatever he has, his behavior is inexcusable.

Atlanta93LE 01-25-2007 10:01 PM

Thanks for the warning. This could change my plans also.

Al Hounos 01-25-2007 10:21 PM

That's sad to hear. He seems to be a really busy guy, but not responding is inexcusable, and not a good way to get his PnP MS side business going.

adbradley 01-25-2007 10:25 PM

Im disapointed because i wanted to get one from him as well..

miatamania 01-25-2007 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by Al Hounos (Post 75384)
That's sad to hear. He seems to be a really busy guy, but not responding is inexcusable, and not a good way to get his PnP MS side business going.

no...not at all...looks like I'll be bugging you guys more than you wanted now :).

krayzrac3r 01-25-2007 11:14 PM

how about another idea... Who the hell here knows how to do it and will be willing to do it for us??????? Look at how many people need it. Im sure we can get atleast 5-6 people that want it. Not trying to say king is a bad guy or anything but i need this thing QUICK

Ben 01-25-2007 11:35 PM

PNP MS is very popular with the RX7 guys. And costs less too. If you can solder, you could build your own. It doesn't look hard at all, just very very tedious and time consuming.

Also, since the PNP MS is nearly $700, you could throw that towards a used Link ($800-900) or a new Xede ($1000). The Link has more support due to its time in the market, but the Xede is extremely capable.

I have really taken interest in the Xede, but the economics of getting a preowned EMU for half the cost of the Xede won at the end of the day.

Al Hounos 01-25-2007 11:37 PM

hell, just do what i been sayin. get one prebuilt and do the mods yourself. $330 and an hour of soldering later you have a miata ready MS.
i might offer to do it, but my soldering isn't pretty, and it isn't too hard to do it yourself.

jayc72 01-25-2007 11:38 PM

I wondered what was going on. Didn't think he was going to pull this shit, but I really questioned getting any sort of support from him since he was nearly impossible to get a hold of. Even if he comes back and says he'll get it done I'd sever the relationship and ask for my money back.

The last PM I got from him was Decmeber 28th. At the time I was ready to send him my spare ECU and cash, damn I'm glad I didn't and bought the Link instead.

I hope you can get your money back. If you need a spare ECU I've got one I'm willing to donate if you need it.

Jay :(


Originally Posted by brgracer (Post 75367)
I am not one to post something like this, but this is getting ridiculous unless Adam is sick in a hospital or something. He has had my $$$ for over a month, AND he sent a PM in NOVEMBER that my MS was 90% wired up.

I have been more than reasonable in waiting as I have spent the past two weeks PMing him, e-mailing him, and calling him several times and leaving a message with NO response. Not even a hey, it's taking me more time than I expected. I have not heard from him for 1 entire month.

Adam, if you read this, I expect to hear from you within one week or I will pursue legal recourse, and yes, that is a threat.

Furthermore, god forbid I actually get my MS and need some support or information.

A BIG :td: for kingof1337 aka Adam Martin.


turbopezz 01-25-2007 11:39 PM

import tuner mag has a issue with a ms build in it,but the test car is a miata.

jayc72 01-25-2007 11:39 PM

I'd contact the guys at DIY Autotune and let them know the score, I'm pretty sure that's where he was buying his gear from.

miatamania 01-26-2007 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by Al Hounos (Post 75415)
hell, just do what i been sayin. get one prebuilt and do the mods yourself. $330 and an hour of soldering later you have a miata ready MS.
i might offer to do it, but my soldering isn't pretty, and it isn't too hard to do it yourself.

IF he could talk ME into doing it this way...guys trust me...lol

I'll update...and call it MS for dummies. :)

cjernigan 01-26-2007 12:06 AM

So anyone take their kingofl337 stock ECU apart to see how the switches were wired up?

miatamania 01-26-2007 12:12 AM

given nobody has gotten one...in...eh 3 months ;)

jayc72 01-26-2007 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 75453)
given nobody has gotten one...in...eh 3 months ;)

I think rotaryjunky was the last one to get his.

cjernigan 01-26-2007 12:30 AM

Man that sucks....
Glad he didn't have his '99 setup figured out I might have bit at that worm.
Still planning on building my own though.
First plan of action is welding a 90* elbow on my compressor housing to get this darn SR20 T25 working my my existing IC piping.

akaryrye 01-26-2007 01:48 AM

this is sad to hear, I really hope there is a good excuse for this, but it does not sound good.

Reverant 01-26-2007 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 75443)
So anyone take their kingofl337 stock ECU apart to see how the switches were wired up?

No big deal. Here is how I made my own PnP box for my 2002:

http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/twikicore/dsc00650_1.jpg
http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/twikicore/dsc00627_1.jpg
http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/twikicore/dsc00635_1.jpg

UofACATS 01-26-2007 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 75500)
No big deal.

easy enough right?

:squint:

(Good job though)





It seems a shame this is going down like it is. His ebay thread selling the PnP MS he wanted to hit 550 to be happy yes? Then interest is piqued, demand goes up (with people quite willing to pay the previously hoped for 550) and the dudes gone...

My wild guess is he'll come back with some reason/excuse. I'm not saying it won't be legitimate. We'll see anyway.

BRG hope you get your MS man.

akaryrye 01-26-2007 03:25 AM

holy crap man that is really clean, you obviously put some time and even more thinking into that setup.

myfonti 01-26-2007 05:12 AM

zabbasearch.com if you want to find him...

timk 01-26-2007 06:11 AM

Maybe you guys could see if Boomslang is interested in making a MegaSquirt extension for the Miata like he has for the e-Manage? You could then just purchase a pre-built MegaSquirt and do the simple hardware mods to it, you wouldn't need to cut a thing on your car.

This is the site for his e-Manage harness:
http://www.boomslang.us/emanage.htm

kotomile 01-26-2007 06:16 AM

Hope this works out..

Reverant 01-26-2007 06:18 AM

The emanage harness works because the emanage is a piggyback. The harness they would need to make will only work for a standalone install (or the cost for adding switches, a box etc would skyrocket).

Jim

ecugrad 01-26-2007 07:33 AM

Call me a lucky one. I have a vaunted Kingof337 Miatasquirt in my Miata. It really works wonderfully. There were times I wondered if I was gonna get what I paid for myself. Im sorry to hear of everyones trouble.

What can I do from here? Since I have one in the flesh I'll see if I can snatch it out over the weekend and give everyone the skinny on what it takes to solder this up.

I also have a good EE buddy who likes building stuff on the side. Let me see if he might be interested in building some.

adbradley 01-26-2007 08:25 AM

Well i have the cash, im ready to go, who else is with me? if there are a few of us together, maybe someone will at least give us a good deal on buying a few already assembled units at one time, save a few $$ Im gonna start a new thread

Aussie Driver 01-26-2007 08:48 AM

Guys, order your pre-built Megasquirts from DIY Autotune and ask them if they will do the board mods for you. They have done a page on a Miata install, so it's not like they don't know what to do.

And if a group of you place your orders together they might even do the board mods for free.

And don't get yourselves too worked up over kingof1337's apparent disappearance. He went very quiet for a while this time last year as well. I can understand that some of you have a certain level of frustration over the situation, but this could rapidly get out of hand if people keep taking pot-shots at Adam without him having the chance to defend himself.

So folks, stay cool and remember what the DIY bit in DIY ECU should mean. DIY and don't rely too much on others.

And folks, Happy Australia Day!!!

miatamania 01-26-2007 09:18 AM

heh, nicely put...

Efini~FC3S 01-26-2007 09:44 AM

I'm in the same boat as brgracer. Adam has money from me and my ecu and I haven't heard from him since December. I hope to hear from him soon...

jayc72 01-26-2007 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Aussie Driver (Post 75541)
And don't get yourselves too worked up over kingof1337's apparent disappearance. He went very quiet for a while this time last year as well. I can understand that some of you have a certain level of frustration over the situation, but this could rapidly get out of hand if people keep taking pot-shots at Adam without him having the chance to defend himself.

What defence could he possibly have? Taking at least two people's money and not answering email for over a month is criminal. He took on a responsability when he accepted pre-payment from people, that no matter what he either should have delivered or refunded the money. He shouldn't be given a break because he's a nice guy or doing this on the side. This isn't a small sum of money and he has people's ECU's too.

Oh well I guess it isn't too big of a deal since he doesn't have my ECU and my money. :greddy:

hustler 01-26-2007 11:53 AM

what's keeping us from just running ms as a stand alone ecm, even in prebuild buy someone like diy autotune? I don't know alot about it, but it looks to me like ms will run everything.

Savington 01-26-2007 03:48 PM

I can only assume it is massively easier to hook up when you're not dicking with allowing MS to run things like idle, cold start, etc.

Al Hounos 01-26-2007 04:49 PM

yeah... lots of extra work for zero advantage.

F20turbo 01-26-2007 05:17 PM

thus why I am not going with MS;)

Aussie Driver 01-26-2007 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by AndyFloyd (Post 75728)
thus why I am not going with MS;)

As Harry Callahan once said; "A man's got to know his limitations."

Seriously though a Megasquirt isn't that hard to modify or to install. Everything is well documented and there are only a few wires that need to be connected.

I did one of the first fuel and spark installs without all of the lovely documentation about the install that you guys have access to, and I had never done anything like that before.

If you guys can't do the really simple board mods or a few simple wire connections for yourselves then you really shouldn't be using a Megasquirt. The entire ECU design and development is geared towards giving the user a learning experience. If you don't do anything for yourselves then there isn't any point in using it. Just go and buy a FM Link or something so you can be a happy customer and leave the DIY stuff to the people who are capable of doing it.

Aussie Driver 01-26-2007 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 75696)
I can only assume it is massively easier to hook up when you're not dicking with allowing MS to run things like idle, cold start, etc.

If the Megasquirt is controlling the fuel and spark, then how on earth will the OEM ECU be able to still handle the cold starts?

adbradley 01-26-2007 06:27 PM

the board mods dont scare me... its knowing exactly what u have to have to make it work.. I havent seen any threads that take you from recieved MS (built ms box to plans) to hooked up and running great.

i build the kit.. test it with the stim, works good.. hook up the wires..
then what do i do?

Aussie Driver 01-26-2007 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by adbradley (Post 75767)
the board mods dont scare me... its knowing exactly what u have to have to make it work.. I havent seen any threads that take you from recieved MS (built ms box to plans) to hooked up and running great.

i build the kit.. test it with the stim, works good.. hook up the wires..
then what do i do?

I'll start a new topic on the MSnSE install.

brgracer 01-26-2007 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Aussie Driver (Post 75541)
And don't get yourselves too worked up over kingof1337's apparent disappearance. He went very quiet for a while this time last year as well. I can understand that some of you have a certain level of frustration over the situation, but this could rapidly get out of hand if people keep taking pot-shots at Adam without him having the chance to defend himself.

Didn't mean for this to come off as a pot-shot at Adam. I'm not sure I think that he's trying to rip people off....yet, but I would like to at least hear back something from him. I'm sure he's busy and maybe he bit off more than he can chew, but still then I'd at least appreciate a PM/e-mail/call (that takes less than one minute no matter how busy you are) saying that he's busy and it'll take a little longer. I'm not expecting daily updates or anything. In fact, at this point, if he's too busy, I'd just like my money and ecu back so I can get my car running again before the weather gets nice.

Al Hounos 01-26-2007 07:24 PM

Aussie tellin it like it is. I think we're startin to sound like a broken record... it's not too hard, but you gotta be willing to read and learn.

Plus, when I finally got mine going correctly, (with Aussie's encouragement) I figured, now everyone can do it!

What I'm sayin is I find it interesting that no-one (I think) has gotten an MS miata running since the writeups were written and everything was figured out.

Efini~FC3S 01-26-2007 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by brgracer (Post 75771)
Didn't mean for this to come off as a pot-shot at Adam. I'm not sure I think that he's trying to rip people off....yet, but I would like to at least hear back something from him. I'm sure he's busy and maybe he bit off more than he can chew, but still then I'd at least appreciate a PM/e-mail/call (that takes less than one minute no matter how busy you are) saying that he's busy and it'll take a little longer. I'm not expecting daily updates or anything. In fact, at this point, if he's too busy, I'd just like my money and ecu back so I can get my car running again before the weather gets nice.

Exactly what I'm thinking and what I've tried to let Adam know. I'm not mad if he's too busy to do it, I just want my money back so I can move on. Even if for some reason he doesn't have access to the internet at home or work he could still go to a library and at least pm or e-mail us.

I guess I'm glad I am not the only one in this boat, just not happy to be in the situation at all.

I check this site like eight times a day to see if I've had a pm from kingofl337 and it's getting old.

end vent

miatamania 01-26-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Al Hounos (Post 75778)
Aussie tellin it like it is. I think we're startin to sound like a broken record... it's not too hard, but you gotta be willing to read and learn.

Plus, when I finally got mine going correctly, (with Aussie's encouragement) I figured, now everyone can do it!

What I'm sayin is I find it interesting that no-one (I think) has gotten an MS miata running since the writeups were written and everything was figured out.

I will...;) Just as soon as my rear end goes in...and my clutch (however, I already paid for that)...and I buy a laptop...ouch.

adbradley 01-26-2007 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 75816)
I will...;) Just as soon as my rear end goes in...and my clutch (however, I already paid for that)...and I buy a laptop...ouch.

Why not go for a setup like this? cheap e-bay tablet pc

https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6966

miatamania 01-27-2007 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by adbradley (Post 75823)
Why not go for a setup like this? cheap e-bay tablet pc

https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6966

I thought about it...but I could pick up a laptop from a friend of mine for about 50 bucks...figure I'd give it a shot...but I really do like that idea...

iWeasel410 01-27-2007 12:44 AM

Soldering is not hard at all, just go to the local Radioshack and pick up a soldering iron (~8$), solder (~4$), and a desoldering braid (~4$) and just practice soldering wires together, it's really not hard at all. There is nothing complicated about soldering up the MS board, there's no surface mount components, just as long as you can follow instructions (and I assume you can since you're going the MS router) you'll be fine. All you need for to solder the MS board is a little bit of practice. If you're worried about your skills, you can always start off on the MS Stim :)

Arkmage 01-27-2007 10:19 PM

his mods to the ecu case are not that difficult to perform. I would be glad to explain them to anyone via PM or e-mail. I didn't do it that way myself because I didn't want to modify the stock case incase I need to do a complete removal at some point. Mine is running an external switch box.

Efini~FC3S 02-01-2007 10:52 PM

Holy sh*t Adam Martin is alive, I just got an e-mail from him. Unfortunately it seem he's forgotten who I was...

miatamania 02-02-2007 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 77994)
Holy sh*t Adam Martin is alive, I just got an e-mail from him. Unfortunately it seem he's forgotten who I was...

that doesn't seem...good?

Savington 02-02-2007 01:11 AM

Post the email?

magnamx-5 02-02-2007 09:35 AM

Damn im gonna have to go back to link being my favorite now to bad. With my mambo fingers electronics and circiut boards own me to bad.

adbradley 02-02-2007 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 78151)
Damn im gonna have to go back to link being my favorite now to bad. With my mambo fingers electronics and circiut boards own me to bad.

i think your just a pussy

magnamx-5 02-02-2007 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by adbradley (Post 78155)
i think your just a pussy

You are what you eat.:gay:

magnamx-5 02-02-2007 09:46 AM

2 Attachment(s)
DO these hands look like they do finnicky electrical work?

adbradley 02-02-2007 09:48 AM

Hahahahahah

brgracer 02-02-2007 09:59 AM

I too finally heard back from him, but I'll reserve any judgement until I actually have my MS in my hands.


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