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Braineack 06-05-2007 02:25 PM

Finally got my damn LC-1 back
 
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magnamx-5 06-05-2007 02:40 PM

nice how does 14 psi feel

Braineack 06-05-2007 02:46 PM

fun :yippee:

shuiend 06-05-2007 03:06 PM

I am jelous of your boost. OH YAH yippee you got your LC-1 back and it works. So now you just need to get on tuning again.

Braineack 06-05-2007 03:09 PM

its actually pretty close...just need to tune cruise.

Savington 06-05-2007 03:13 PM

Nice and flat.

ecugrad 06-05-2007 03:45 PM

Weird, you have the same lean spike I do on initial throttle application.

Is this just a Miata thing?

magnamx-5 06-05-2007 04:00 PM

i think that is him blipping the throttle

Braineack 06-05-2007 04:01 PM

down shift. see rpms.

y8s 06-05-2007 04:32 PM

good work. now gimme back my probe from your bunghole.


PS what up with the duty cycle? time for bigger squirters?

hustler 06-05-2007 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 120640)
Nice and flat.

:bowdown:

I hope I can get mine that smooth.

Ben 06-05-2007 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 120672)
PS what up with the duty cycle? time for bigger squirters?

81% at 14 psi isn't a big deal. :)

What I find interesting though is how much more fuel I get from my RC 440s than you get from your Denso 460s. Shorter lag FTW.

slimeball6969 06-05-2007 05:54 PM

can you post your msq?

thanks, i just want to reference it

Braineack 06-05-2007 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 120672)
good work. now gimme back my probe from your bunghole.


PS what up with the duty cycle? time for bigger squirters?

I got it, whenever we meet up next. (Im going to fuddruckers in Tysons tomorrow for the MSCW meet @ 7)

It's not bad considering on the dyno with my 187rwhp run @ 176kPa I was seeing 95% DC :rofl:

more boost & more timing & less fuel = increased fun; I need a motor that can take this turbo to 20psi....

neogenesis2004 06-05-2007 06:39 PM

well......

Braineack 06-05-2007 06:42 PM

I'm sorry I'm not cool like you; Mr. Building-a-mysteriously-awesome-engine-that's-going-to-knock-your-socks-off.

y8s 06-05-2007 08:16 PM

no mscw for me. i'll be home eating leftovers and bustin out the ps3.

Braineack 06-05-2007 08:40 PM

PS3 sounds lots more fun than hanging out with +50yo guys, no offense Bruce.

y8s 06-06-2007 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 120733)
PS3 sounds lots more fun than hanging out with +50yo guys, no offense Bruce.

plus it's at fuddruckers. i can eat slimy low quality hamburger on my own time.

jayc72 06-06-2007 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 120686)
81% at 14 psi isn't a big deal. :)

What I find interesting though is how much more fuel I get from my RC 440s than you get from your Denso 460s. Shorter lag FTW.

I'm not seeing nearly this duty cycle at 15psi and I'm running RX7 460's, and the AFR confirms it.

Apparently not every injector is created equally.

Braineack 06-06-2007 11:02 AM

well, it also helps if i have the configurator set to 10-20AFR and not 1-1.5lamda....actual numbers in boost were closer to 11.5:1 AFR...still working on it.

Ben 06-06-2007 11:41 AM

Yeah get your LC analog out programmed correctly (not the default) and get your config set up for it. Otherwise, what's the point?

Your DC is still a bunch higher than mine. I wouldn't think you're making significantly more hp.

Braineack 06-06-2007 11:55 AM

I have now, forgot about the LC-1 programmer when i reinstalled, didn't have it outputting correctly now...it's all good now, just had to tune a bit more...im close, im working on cruise, boost is easy.

Ben 06-06-2007 12:03 PM

Tuning cruise is super easy with 2 people. Get someone else to drive while you make tweaks on the laptop. Just explain to them that you need them to hold vac and rpm.

I had a friend of mine drive, and we got it 99% by driving up the highway 1 exit (6 miles, in light traffic) and we taking the surface streets back.

Braineack 06-06-2007 12:12 PM

I'm just leaving realtime mode on with the cursor on "follow" mode. if i notice a spot on the WB gauge that needs tuning I just jab shift+up or down to move that area a point. Worked so far.....alreayd had it close enough from before, just the numbers were about 2 points off.

magnamx-5 06-06-2007 05:32 PM

autotune :) i like 14 psi as well

Al Hounos 06-06-2007 07:16 PM

cursor follow mode is awesome

Braineack 06-06-2007 08:35 PM

i had to rescale my fuel table. there was a spot in between 2400 and 3000RPM that needed to be split...always too rich or too lean....added another row in vacuum as well, boost is easy to tune, probably only need rows.

Ben 06-06-2007 09:54 PM

go for it as long as your high load part of the table doesn't suffer. the ms will interpolate between values, so it won't hurt to remove a row if the values aren't going to change much.

however, I would advise not removing any high load rows until after you've dyno tuned them. you may find out later that you need some more resolution up top. I'd absolutely sacrifice a tad of economy at 2500 rpm to get the boosted stuff right. you shouldn't really be spending any time at 2500 rpm anyway.

i have a rich spot at right about 2.8-3k in light load. personally, I don't care, it may come out--I haven't tried. i don't spend much time there. the cruise parts of my map are all 14-15:1. And I have a limited highway band at 15-16:1.

My tuner advised me to keep cruise around 14:1 to help keep egt a little lower. He said it would help bring temps back in check after long boosted runs. sounded good to me. the motor's more expensive than a little extra fuel.

Braineack 06-06-2007 10:09 PM

It's working out ok. I'm shooting for 15-14.5:1 cruise.

I'm basically starting from scrtach now with this new scale...trying to get it close enough that when i take it to the dyno i wont have to fool around with it too much.

There's a lot of 35 40mprh street around here where I drive slow in 4th and 5th, I hate seeing 12:1 there.

boost rows are fine.

btw hiting 76% at a real 11.5AFR

Al Hounos 06-06-2007 10:10 PM

i cruise at 15.5-16, that'll run cooler than 14:1, and get better mileage. stoic is the hottest mixture. i just leaned it out till i got surging and then added it back in.

richyvrlimited 06-07-2007 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Al Hounos (Post 121082)
i cruise at 15.5-16, that'll run cooler than 14:1, and get better mileage. stoic is the hottest mixture. i just leaned it out till i got surging and then added it back in.

+1! ;)

magnamx-5 06-07-2007 11:35 AM

+1 also

ecugrad 06-07-2007 12:33 PM

Hmmm I need to lean mine out a bit then. I think I am cruising at 14.5'ish

Splitime 06-07-2007 12:52 PM

Heh... I'm so lazy... I'm getting 30mpg in my turbo civic and cruising at like 13.5 :p

Sigh.


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