Thanks, kinda saved my ass. Those settings were -7 with a 24900 bias resistor, and 70 with a 249000 bias resistor. Worked well enough to get through the dyno tuning, but it wasn't reading correct. Anyone know the correct bias resistance?
|
2 Attachment(s)
For the MSM:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463658293 everything else seem to be okay for you guys? |
Yes, resistor swap fixed the fuel pump, car dynoed at 247. Much more and he needs injectors/rods.
Alternator sucked, running 11.2-12.7volts the whole time. He said he had some issue with the ecu regulation, on the old ecu, is the MS setup to regulate one? That or he needs a 94-97. |
it should be.
double check the voltage at the injectors actually matches what the MS is suggesting. The Alternator settings are on the first tab, and it should be pretty solid at around 14.5v. Those settings are from DIY and are pretty spot on for all other NB installs. |
Need help with a fuel pump issue on my MS3X. This is for a 99 using the MSPNP-pro base map.
I'm not able to turn the fuel pump on. Everything else works. When I jump the FP pin on the diagnostics port to force to pump to run and start the car it works just fine. As soon as i disconnect that jumper the FP dies and the car will slowly start to run lean and finally stall when it looses enough pressure. When I use test mode to trigger the fuel pump I can not hear it running. I've set it up on the bench in test mode and am reading 0.6V with the output set to off, 4.6V with is set to on, 1.7V when pulsed at 25% DC. So it seems to be functioning. I'm not sure why it's only 4.6 V. Battery in is at 12.4V. The 5V on the proto is 5.08V. I've attached a picture of the circuit and all diodes look to be the right way. All diodes look to be in the right orientation. When I swap it back to the stock ECU it primes and starts right away without needing the jumper. I'm stumped https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5c352e21ce.jpg |
It's not providing power to the fuel pump, it's giving the fuel pump relay ground. So you'd wanna check for continuity to ground when switching the fuel pump on/off. But if it has 4.7 volts that's not a good start.
|
Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1348144)
It's not providing power to the fuel pump, it's giving the fuel pump relay ground. So you'd wanna check for continuity to ground when switching the fuel pump on/off. But if it has 4.7 volts that's not a good start.
|
what output do you have the FP on? The MSPNP-PRO map isnt going to match inputs and outputs exactly...
|
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1348175)
what output do you have the FP on? The MSPNP-PRO map isnt going to match inputs and outputs exactly...
current plan is to order the components of that circuit and build it on the proto area and bypass the original circuit. |
well it's completely possible you installed the wrong transistor on Q4
|
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1348243)
well it's completely possible you installed the wrong transistor on Q4
would it be possible to use i different I/O pin for the fuel pump. It looks like it can not be remaped in the fuel pump setting page. But in the programmable on/off setup one of the inputs is fp_duty. So if I set the fuel pump to open loop pwm then setup a programmable output to trigger on when fp_duty > 0 and wire that to the fuel pump harness pin would that work? Is there a suitable output on the MSX card to control the FP relay without extra circuitry? |
Why are you using PWM. Do you have a solid state relay?
|
Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1348261)
Why are you using PWM. Do you have a solid state relay?
Then I can go into the programmable I/O page and setup an output that is triggered to turn on anytime FP_duty is greater than 0. That way it should hopefully match the on/off relay functionality of the FP control as a band aid fix. |
it won't work as well, since it wont prime with key on and such.
just fix your mistakes! |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1348277)
it won't work as well, since it wont prime with key on and such.
just fix your mistakes! Wouldn't a variable speed fuel pump also prime at key on. So wouldn't it have a DC > 0 when it primes and trigger my stock FP relay properly? |
what'd you need to order? you have a spare component for each thing on that circuit iirc.
look under the board and make sure your soldering to the transistors Q2 and Q19 are good -- no bridged pins. |
Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1331471)
For reference here is the fuel pump circuit.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463243704 Without r40 the entire circuit is useless. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1348316)
what'd you need to order? you have a spare component for each thing on that circuit iirc.
look under the board and make sure your soldering to the transistors Q2 and Q19 are good -- no bridged pins. Much learning from this project. I'm just glad it's running my engine now except for the FP issue. The end is in sight. DIY shipped out my order last night so I should be able to rebuild it mid next week. No solder bridges on the two transistors. |
So I gave the re-map "work around" a shot and it worked beautifully. Just in case someone else has a similar problem and stumbles upon this thread and wants to use the temporary band aid solution.
I used the VVT output pin and on the programable I/O page set it to on when FP_duty > 1. The fuel pump primes on key on like it should and everything works perfectly. |
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:15 PM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands