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Old 07-02-2008, 01:03 AM   #1
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Default Hi Res and Palmlog?

I posted this question within another thread but I thought it might get a broader viewing here.
Can anyone tell me whether Palmlog will work with the HiRes code? (I run 10G) If so, are there specific settings I need to configure?
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Yes, it works just fine with 10g. If you're already using PalmLog, you'll only need to change a couple of fields ("RTU char" and "bytes" IIRC?) to get it communicating properly with the new MS firmware. I don't have the Palm with me ATM but can verify the settings later when I get home. The PalmLog home page has all the info you need though.
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That's great and thanks. I had taken a look at the Palmlog page but I was not sure what the RTU and Bytes settings should be (or if it was supported at all).
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The PalmLog page probably isn't updated every single time a new firmware is released, but you can find the necessary values in the msns-extra.ini file. Off the top of my head, I think for 10g the RTU char = R and bytes = 41.
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The PalmLog page probably isn't updated every single time a new firmware is released, but you can find the necessary values in the msns-extra.ini file. Off the top of my head, I think for 10g the RTU char = R and bytes = 41.
Thanks again, I just saw the same thing as I read further down. Thanks for pointing me to it. I will give it a shot this afternoon.
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Thanks again, I just saw the same thing as I read further down. Thanks for pointing me to it. I will give it a shot this afternoon.
So it did not work for me.
I had not used PalmLog in a while and I needed to reinstall it on my Palm VIIx which seemed to go fine (though I am not sure how to tell except that Palmlog showed up on my Palm and booted up). I then set the RTU char to R and the Bytes to 41 (as indicated in my .ini as well as your recollection). I also unchecked the MS2 box and then connected using the same Null Modem adapter I had used before to my Hotsync cable and then the MSPNP. PalmLog says it is not connected and the communication tests fail as well.
When I did this before I went to HR everything seemed to work so easily that I cannot see what might have gone wrong this time (I even checked the MSPNP with my laptop to be sure it was indeed reporting, which it was).

Is there something I might have missed or should check? (I would love to get PalmLog working again).

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Over as msefi.com the VIIx is not on the official compatibility list, however one guy mentioned he got it to work. Not sure what was up with your Palm that required you to reinstall, but if you have any doubts just do a full reset and start with a clean slate. Make sure your Palm OS is version 3.5.3, and upgrade if necessary. You need both the .prc and the .pdb for Palmlog to work. If you only reinstalled one of them, try deleting and reinstalling both together. All you should need then is to set R and 41 and uncheck the MS2 box, but you do need to exit and restart Palmlog for that change to take effect so it will communicate. As long as you're using a known good null modem adapter, I can't really think of anything else that you've overlooked.

If all that fails, maybe try asking over at msefi. Could be something funky about the VIIx too, since they haven't added it to the compatibility list despite the one good report. I've got a IIIxe FWIW.
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So this Palm VIIx was working before with Palmlog so I expected it to work again after I upgraded my MSPNP to the 10G code. I will re-test all the cables (it is the exact same setup I used before I switched to the HR code but perhaps something was damaged in the interim). The reason I resinstalled everything was that the Palm VIIx reset to its base installation after the batteries had been removed for an extended period. It has the latest updates and my Palm desk top manager said both the .prc and .pdb were installed. Is there a way I can confirm that on the Palm? (right now I just ran Palmlog but I am not sure how to check and be sure the files are properly installed) Palmlog works the way I remembered from a user interface perspective, it just does not show as being connected to my MSPNP.


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Over as msefi.com the VIIx is not on the official compatibility list, however one guy mentioned he got it to work. Not sure what was up with your Palm that required you to reinstall, but if you have any doubts just do a full reset and start with a clean slate. Make sure your Palm OS is version 3.5.3, and upgrade if necessary. You need both the .prc and the .pdb for Palmlog to work. If you only reinstalled one of them, try deleting and reinstalling both together. All you should need then is to set R and 41 and uncheck the MS2 box, but you do need to exit and restart Palmlog for that change to take effect so it will communicate. As long as you're using a known good null modem adapter, I can't really think of anything else that you've overlooked.

If all that fails, maybe try asking over at msefi. Could be something funky about the VIIx too, since they haven't added it to the compatibility list despite the one good report. I've got a IIIxe FWIW.
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... my Palm desk top manager said both the .prc and .pdb were installed. Is there a way I can confirm that on the Palm?
They're probably both installed then. I can't figure out how to make the default software show the rpe5_tblSetup file, and it's probably too small (only 180 bytes) to determine simply by the reported size of Palmlog- it would most likely show 134K either way. I use a shareware app called Launcher III, which is a tabbed launcher with a few other features, and that does list both files separately.

Make double sure of your OS version. Some VIIx shipped with 3.5 and some with 3.5.3, and if yours is one of the older ones it might have reset to 3.5 after you had to reinstall things. 3.5 ≠ 3.5.3 and you need the latter because it adds/fixes hardware flow control that affects serial communications.

Earlier versions of Palmlog were known to not work with hi-res, so make sure you've got the latest (2.7).

About the only thing left to check is cabling, but if you had it working before that's not likely to be the problem. If all that stuff is in order, I might be stumped.
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Default It was a bad connector.

I started swapping cables and PalmLog lit up and started recording just fine. Thanks again for all your help and I am thrilled it works again (PalmLog is absolutely the way to go in my view, I hated driving around with a laptop in my passenger seat).

Thanks again,
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They're probably both installed then. I can't figure out how to make the default software show the rpe5_tblSetup file, and it's probably too small (only 180 bytes) to determine simply by the reported size of Palmlog- it would most likely show 134K either way. I use a shareware app called Launcher III, which is a tabbed launcher with a few other features, and that does list both files separately.

Make double sure of your OS version. Some VIIx shipped with 3.5 and some with 3.5.3, and if yours is one of the older ones it might have reset to 3.5 after you had to reinstall things. 3.5 ≠ 3.5.3 and you need the latter because it adds/fixes hardware flow control that affects serial communications.

Earlier versions of Palmlog were known to not work with hi-res, so make sure you've got the latest (2.7).

About the only thing left to check is cabling, but if you had it working before that's not likely to be the problem. If all that stuff is in order, I might be stumped.
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