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Mach929 05-14-2007 10:18 PM

I'm gonna be a squirter too!
 
just ordered the pnp setup with IAT sensor. now i just need injectors and my own laptop.

Ben 05-14-2007 10:31 PM

and you can get a knocksense ms from http://www.viatrack.ca/

Braineack 05-14-2007 10:37 PM

hmmm....looks like im going to build that AND a EBC.

Phil, couldn't do anymore adjustments with the EMB?

Mach929 05-14-2007 10:42 PM

i could have probably fixed everything but didn't even try, i just really want big injectors and no maf, megasquirt done deal

Mach929 05-14-2007 10:45 PM

with the knocksense can you set it up megasquirt to pull timing automatically?

Ben 05-14-2007 10:49 PM

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2750/kdsbv0.png

Braineack 05-15-2007 08:27 AM

Knocksense is being ordered as we speak.

hustler 05-15-2007 08:59 AM

I have ms pnp, 550's, knocksense, lc-1, computer...but my clutch let go at the track on sunday, so I won't be working on it any time soon.

krayzrac3r 05-15-2007 10:02 AM

Ive already got mine too but i had a hugeeee vacuum leak for some reason so ive had trouble with this thing. My manifold is out and Jerry was suggesting it might be my injectors as they werent freely moving around. Im hoping to get it running soon especially since I already have my clutch, flywheel and the 550s in already.

castillejos2000 05-22-2007 05:52 AM

my mspnp is coming soon,i ordered mspnp thru group buy,the question is what knocksense do or how gonna help me with my greddy turbo,550cc set up,is this recommended,and how the launch control work,hows gonna help??do you guys have a pre map for a turbo set up.

Matt Cramer 05-22-2007 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by castillejos2000 (Post 115879)
my mspnp is coming soon,i ordered mspnp thru group buy,the question is what knocksense do or how gonna help me with my greddy turbo,550cc set up,is this recommended,and how the launch control work,hows gonna help??do you guys have a pre map for a turbo set up.

The KnockSense tells the MSPNP when it detects knock. You can then set up the MSPNP to pull a bit of timing when that happens. While a well tuned engine on high octane shouldn't knock anyway, it can provide a bit of protection from a tank of bad gas.

Launch control is basically a rev limiter that engages either when the clutch is depressed or you flip an external switch, depending on how you wire it up. It lets you hold the car steady at a particular RPM so you can dump the clutch there for consistent launches.

hustler 05-22-2007 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by castillejos2000 (Post 115879)
my mspnp is coming soon,i ordered mspnp thru group buy,the question is what knocksense do or how gonna help me with my greddy turbo,550cc set up,is this recommended,and how the launch control work,hows gonna help??do you guys have a pre map for a turbo set up.

You need to do a ton of research before you try to tune this car, or it will be a disaster. This explains knock/detonation/LPP.
http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Articl...tion/index.php

Knocksense
http://www.viatrack.ca/

Hook-up and tuning for knocksense is discussed ad nauseam here.
http://www.megasquirtpnp.com/models/...093_manual.htm
Read everything on this page, and know it by heart before you start working with MS.

settings are here:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3077

install the software DIY gives you, and follow the directions.

You have a lot to learn, I do too. You are now taking a task into your hands where you need to know a lot about turbo charging, and exponentially more about how an engine functions. You can do it, but you need to take the time and educate yourself first. DIY autotune has gone a mile to make this an incredibly simple process. Don't get all worked up over things like launch control; you must tune the VE, spark, cold start, knock, and enrichment tables first.




-I think this was my most productive post yet on this board.

magnamx-5 05-22-2007 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 115909)
You need to do a ton of research before you try to tune this car, or it will be a disaster. This explains knock/detonation/LPP.
http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Articl...tion/index.php

Knocksense
http://www.viatrack.ca/

Hook-up and tuning for knocksense is discussed ad nauseam here.
http://www.megasquirtpnp.com/models/...093_manual.htm
Read everything on this page, and know it by heart before you start working with MS.

settings are here:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3077

install the software DIY gives you, and follow the directions.

You have a lot to learn, I do too. You are now taking a task into your hands where you need to know a lot about turbo charging, and exponentially more about how an engine functions. You can do it, but you need to take the time and educate yourself first. DIY autotune has gone a mile to make this an incredibly simple process. Don't get all worked up over things like launch control; you must tune the VE, spark, cold start, knock, and enrichment tables first.




-I think this was my most productive post yet on this board.

It deserves Framing for sure :pitlab:

SKMetalworks 05-23-2007 11:28 PM

I will soon be squirting as well. just bought one off ebay. im lookin for some 440cc injectors to power my greddy kit comin in the mail. Man once i get all this shit my car is gonna go from getting passed-passing gas:rly:

castillejos2000 05-30-2007 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 113538)
I have ms pnp, 550's, knocksense, lc-1, computer...but my clutch let go at the track on sunday, so I won't be working on it any time soon.

need help,can i copy your basemap so i can drive my car to dyno shop,i got same set up as yours turbo w/550cc,w/230 cc before was running rich but it run,when i put my 550cc way rich,bug down and die.thanks

magnamx-5 05-30-2007 06:04 PM

you can have mine if you like joe it isnt done yet though i run 460's. GL man IF you are nice maybe ben would give you his MSQ as well

Ben 05-30-2007 06:09 PM

DO NOT RUN MAGNA's MSQ file. It may blow your ignitor.

You have a base map already loaded on your MSPNP. It's a fine, drivable basemap. I know this. :)

You need to read the MSPNP owner's manual. RTFM. I am not sharing my file--and it's not because I'm being a dick, but because the info for changing injector size in megatune is in the manual--it's not hard and it's important that you know how to do it yourself.

magnamx-5 05-30-2007 06:19 PM

:rofl: magna is the devil huh. Any who castilles as ben says your base map should be good to go if you have any more trouble you can reference the varius fuel maps etc avialable here. Ben you are so serius :gay: good times guys I'll remove his temptation for him ;)

Braineack 05-30-2007 06:52 PM

Ben's being serious for a reason. Dont burn MSQ maps from other people.... go offline...open the map and export whatever you need to steal from it. Otherwise you overwrite all the settings.

most homemade MSs run inverted spark, and that will blow your ignitor. they also have different REQ FUEL, mods, warmup, PWM, etc....

they only thing you'll need to do with a MSPnP is change your REQFUEL and fine tune the fuel map.

Ben 05-30-2007 07:02 PM

exactly. not to mention my boost solenoid duty cycle table. perfectly safe in my car. but it is VERY likely to blow others' motors.

serious? come on, I put a smilie face in there for levity.


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