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BTMiata 04-08-2014 04:39 PM

Installing ms3x...crazy noise when key on...
 
Wtf is this noise?!?!

Ms3x install noise:

psyber_0ptix 04-08-2014 04:47 PM

IACV?

jt@namiata.com 04-08-2014 04:47 PM

IAC? Pull ze plug.

dieselmiata 04-08-2014 04:51 PM

IAC. Check the frequency setting.

BTMiata 04-08-2014 04:53 PM

Ahh ok thanks guys! It's not going to hurt anything buzzing like that is it? I was concerned something was wrong so I shut the car down right after recording the clip

psyber_0ptix 04-08-2014 04:55 PM

shouldn't hurt but don't want to roast it. maybe this helps?

https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...equency-48120/

dieselmiata 04-08-2014 04:56 PM

Not right away, no. If you don't use the correct frequency setting it will kill the valve.

BTMiata 04-08-2014 05:00 PM

Ok thanks again! I'm going to unplug it until I get the setting correct... Getting back out in the garage after dinner and wife-time lol

psyber_0ptix 04-08-2014 05:02 PM

"wife time":ky:

jt@namiata.com 04-08-2014 07:51 PM

FWIW, mine was noisy in my basemap from Rev @ 313hz, bumped to 480hz (per 500hz suggestion in linked thread above... it's as high as I can go) and is a low hum now.

BTMiata 04-08-2014 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1119559)
"wife time":ky:

Bahahahaha I tried but she said no :-/

Ok next dumb question... Did I do something wrong? Are wires backwards on my TPS? I have a pnp TPS sensor from the guy on here who sells them all the time, so I doubt he wired it wrong


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397003937

BTMiata 04-08-2014 09:34 PM

Ok so also I ended up bumping the Inc frequency to 503hz.much quieter now... Hopefully that's not too high of a setting.

Off work tomorrow and can't wait to VE analyze and drive around and see what it does!

thirdgen 04-08-2014 09:37 PM

Don't VE analyze anything until everything is calibrated properly.

BTMiata 04-08-2014 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1119662)
Don't VE analyze anything until everything is calibrated properly.

I have everything else calibrated... I just need to find out about that TPS message I had pop up

jt@namiata.com 04-08-2014 09:43 PM

Right. You either wired it wrong or calibrated it wrong.

BTMiata 04-08-2014 09:52 PM

I'll see if I can either flip the connector or maybe I misunderstood brains instructions

thirdgen 04-09-2014 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1119663)
I have everything else calibrated... I just need to find out about that TPS message I had pop up

On the dashboard screen of TS, TPS should read 0 with your foot off the gas. Press the pedal and watch it change.
If it's not reading 0 when closed, and doesn't go positive numbers when you hit the pedal, something is wrong.

BTMiata 04-09-2014 07:34 AM

Ok so the plug is not backwards... Its either incorrect wiring or I improperly did the procedure. I'm pretty sure I followed brains instructions exactly though

Braineack 04-09-2014 07:50 AM

did you actually install a vTPS?

the buzzing is actually a bit bothersome, since the freq you should be using is whatever was loaded (something like 100Hz).

BTMiata 04-09-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1119787)
did you actually install a vTPS?

the buzzing is actually a bit bothersome, since the freq you should be using is whatever was loaded (something like 100Hz).

Yes I have a TPS from railz on the forum. Here is how he has it wired...



https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397044720

Braineack 04-09-2014 08:02 AM

reverse the 5v and ground.

BTMiata 04-09-2014 08:26 AM

Ok TPS is sorted.

Should I change the frequency of the Inc back and let it buzz brain? Will it be OK at 511hz that I have it set at to quiet it down?

Also do I need the map connected if I don't have boost yet? I need to get to work tomorrow and I'm not sure if I'll get this line routed before I need to drive it

Braineack 04-09-2014 08:33 AM

no, leave it at a setting that doesn't buzz. Just odd, makes me wonder if I omitted a flyback diode on the IACV circuit. I'd have to have you check inside the case though.

YES. you need the MAP line hooked up in order to run.

seriously, worst case, run a line from the IM to the ECU through the hood and the window into the cabin. else you'll be injecting fuel for 100kPa regardless of the actual MAP in the IM. That means, you'll be fueling like the car is at WOT regardless of load, which also means it wont really run because it will flood at idle.

BTMiata 04-09-2014 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1119818)
no, leave it at a setting that doesn't buzz. Just odd, makes me wonder if I omitted a flyback diode on the IACV circuit. I'd have to have you check inside the case though.

YES. you need the MAP line hooked up in order to run.

seriously, worst case, run a line from the IM to the ECU through the hood and the window into the cabin. else you'll be injecting fuel for 100kPa regardless of the actual MAP in the IM. That means, you'll be fueling like the car is at WOT regardless of load, which also means it wont really run because it will flood at idle.

Got it thanks brain. I'll have to run it through the window unless I can get a hole in my firewall with a Dremel. Can't find a grommet on the passenger side

Braineack 04-09-2014 08:38 AM

it's back there. I thought I had a pic in my docs.

it's behind the washer fluid bottle, closer to the fender if anything.

BTMiata 04-09-2014 10:18 AM

Ok got the map line routed through that hole. Metal coat hanger worked like a charm!

OK last question before I start to VE analyze....

If I checked my timing and set it to 10deg yesterday... Do I need to do the whole procedure in the instructions about switching to fixed and all that. If I set it to 10degrees yesterday it wouldn't have changed with the ms install right?

Reason I'm asking is because I don't have the timing light with me at home. I left it at the garage at work

Braineack 04-09-2014 10:39 AM

the MS must be synced using the Trigger Angle.


you can drive, but your timing could be off by a huge margin. that is a MUST after initial starting.

BTMiata 04-09-2014 10:43 AM

Ok I just have to drive about 15 miles to the shop then to check the timing.


Now to top everything else off... Tunerstudio keeps going offline and I have to reboot my laptop every time...

BTMiata 04-09-2014 10:55 AM

Ecu connectivity issue is the cable. I'll be picking one up on my way to the shop

BTMiata 04-09-2014 12:14 PM

Ok so what could I have killed? I'm sitting on the side of the road stock ecu is back in and it cranks starts and dies. Stock ecu and tps

Edit - afm was left unplugged... I'm putting this on hold until Friday morning... I'm getting myself all worked up and it was such a simple mistake... Blah

theemike 04-10-2014 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1119930)
I'm getting myself all worked up and it was such a simple mistake... Blah

I know exactly what you mean. There is so much to learn and so many little things make for big problems. I am fighting with the same issues. As a matter of fact, I quit last night after having the buzzing ICV then I saw your post...LOL

dieselmiata 04-10-2014 08:51 AM

I know it's a daunting task, but many of your problems could be resolved by reading the Megamanual first. Even if you only absorb a fraction of the information in it, you will pick up keywords that will help you reference things later on.

BTMiata 04-10-2014 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by theemike (Post 1120175)
I know exactly what you mean. There is so much to learn and so many little things make for big problems. I am fighting with the same issues. As a matter of fact, I quit last night after having the buzzing ICV then I saw your post...LOL

Lol you can read.. and read.. and read some more, and you will still not be prepared to make the leap to actually getting everything set up Lol.

I still am curious as to why the MS took a shit a few miles from my house.... I will have a better idea tomorrow but thankfully I have it running with the stock ECU for now

BTMiata 04-10-2014 03:42 PM

Ok hopefully I can get some assistance from Brain here...

I couldn't resist and I swapped the MS back in about 10 mins ago. Tried to fire it up and it stalls right out. If I hit the gas it misfires and never stabilizes. I think I screwed the tune up yesterday when I decided to go full retard and use VE analyze and my bad cable cut out in the middle. When I got it re-connected again with the shitty cable, it asked me if I wanted to keep the old tune or flash the new one. The wording was a little strange (Or i'm just special) and I think I picked the tune that got screwed up...

How do I get the tune back that was originally loaded on the MS? Is it still saved somewhere in there? Do I need to get it re-loaded?


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