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Old 12-10-2007, 07:29 PM   #21
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no I meant 16x16 ve table. there was a software upgrade at some point. i've obviously never used an msII, but there's a lot to read at msefi.com .

<edit> 16x16 ve table is part of the 2extra code.

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Old 12-10-2007, 07:29 PM   #22
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Seriously, sell me on MSII. If I'm gonna do it, I'd rather do it right at the beginning.
Done.

Really, if you're going to want to tinker (which is obvious since you've already done more than 99% of the people EVER do and it hasn't even shown up yet) you're going to want it. The more computing HP you've got the more flexibility you leave yourself for fun. And there's a lot of stuff you can control with it, or do better. Basically, the MS-I (as brash as I was) was what kept me from looking at the MS seriously years ago. I kept getting answers like you can do fuel but not spark, spark but not boost control, etc etc. I don't want to have to choose from a lack of CPU time.

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I was able to get all the input mods and fuel working, but spark is part of the triple threat and I couldn't get it within my window. The miata is my DD so you do the math.

The MSII cpu has less current coming from its spark outputs which I believe has something to do with not getting consistent, full spark. I have not messed with using the led transistors to boost the current. I would love to humbly pass the torch to you.
DD?

Yeah - I'm planning on building some circuits onto the ignition. I have no idea what yet, I really need to start reading but I just can't concentrate on it without having it in front of me.


Anyway, I'm biased. I want another MS-II user in town aside from my buddy with the RX-7.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:40 PM   #23
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DD = daily driver
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:08 PM   #24
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Hey Joe, im sorry to hear, that you have gone to the other side after inspiring so many of us to use the emb/emu, can you do us one last favour & make the knock sensor work on the emu before you pull it off PLEASE

I hope you still help us dumb people on the emanage thread !!!

good luck mate & may the squirt be with you
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Basically, the MS-I (as brash as I was) was what kept me from looking at the MS seriously years ago. I kept getting answers like you can do fuel but not spark, spark but not boost control, etc etc.
Actually, that's the reason I bought the MSI instead of the MSII. From a practical standpoint, the MSI using MSnS-E can currently do boost control and WI control. So far as I can tell, the MSII does not presently support these features.

If I'm wrong about either of these, I'd like to know about it. I'll glady change my mind and acquire Neo's MSII at this point- I don't consider the MSI to be money wasted since the actual μP itself is so cheap.
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Hey Joe, im sorry to hear, that you have gone to the other side after inspiring so many of us to use the emb/emu, can you do us one last favour & make the knock sensor work on the emu before you pull it off PLEASE
Heh, seems like I keep turning traitor.

Tell ya what. I'll go ahead and install the KnockSense ahead of time, and I'll take a stab at configuring it to run the EMU. I've already got the basic concept sketched out in my head, and it should not involve much wiring. I've just gotta get off my *** and reconsolidate my ignition tables back into IGN1 so I can free up the second one for knock retard.
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Some one just snagged it, so the decision would be slightly easier now that you'd have to pay full price ($90+shipping).
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MS-II either currently or in the near future supports all those features. Because I will make it do it no matter what. :-)

From what I've been reading, I don't expext any hold ups, just more resolution, more speed, more control and more outputs.

And while $90 might be a lot on a MS scale, it's not a lot when looking at a $2,000 ecu from some plug-and-play company.
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So wait you guys are talking like ms2 is a upgrabeable option for all us ms1 guys. Cool, joe i dunno if you wanna be the geunie pig on the drivers etc with ms2 like your buddy there. I sure wouldn't it is much easier to let a few people do it first than to be a pioneer.
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yes, you can upgrade your msI to msII for about $100.
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Some one just snagged it, so the decision would be slightly easier now that you'd have to pay full price ($90+shipping).
Honestly, not really. If it truly is a superior option then I'll buy it. $90 is not a lot of money relative to my engine.

OTOH, I'm still trying to figure out, with something resembling a degree of clarity, if the MSII will do EBC and WI control like the MSI will.
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