K, wondering about this MS thing.
Is it more worth it to buy the PnP or do the DIY in terms of overall cost? Time means not a whole lot to me since I have time to kill. I was thinking the Greddy Emanage because I'm not going for grotesque amounts of power. However, I've been hearing nice things about MS... thoughts?
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1 If you can solder do a DIY
2. DIY costs maybe 300$ 3. PNP costs what 600$ i dont remember exactly. 4. If you trust yourself working on circiut baords then DIY Look at this list to see if MS is right for you. Personally the only one i agreed with was the 300$ one but my buddy adam was ok with the rest so i got my stuff done for a very good price. ;) |
PnP is close to $740.
DIY is closer to $400, depedning on what you buy. |
I got a great deal then You are leaving the LC1 out right?
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yeah. If I was building a MS and idnt have a WBO2, then I'd build a JAW at the same time.
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my assembled ms 1 pcb3 + lc1 + assembled harness + sensors cost me around $600-650. and that was a good deal since my ms unit was THE last one spark and fuel sold. they are completely out of units now so no deals for anyone else :)
oh, and that includes "powered by megasquirt efi" license plate frame ;) |
another shameless plug:
I'm selling one that I put together but haven't had time to mess with: https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=11188 |
I just built one for Rappadan here for under $500, would have been less if the EBC wasnt included, and if I didnt charge him a nomial fee to build it.
If I can get a source on connectors (which I believe I can now) then the cost of the boomslang is cut more than half. and thats about 1/4 of the cost. I could build a MS with JAW wbo2 (with all mods done, and 95% PnP) for somewhere in the $450-500 mark, would have to see the total cost and crap, plus a few to ship of corse. |
isnt jaw inaccurate?
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no, it's table based, and the table was something like 8:1 - 30:1, he scaled it down with the last revision of the software so it has higher resolution where you acutally would need it.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 133001)
I could build a MS with JAW wbo2 (with all mods done, and 95% PnP) for somewhere in the $450-500 mark, would have to see the total cost and crap, plus a few to ship of corse.
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adding everything up, I could do a:
MS DIY (with intake sensor) 95% PnP Harness JAW WBo2 (with sensor & w/o display) for $525 If you want EBC, add $40 (solenoid and all) |
Did I mention I want to be stealthy on the install. i.e.- Underhood there would be little question as to what one was looking at? Recently CHP enacted a spoken rule that they would be targeting a certain vehicle/driver. That would be a visually modified import vehicle with a 18-34 year old Azn male at the helm. Profiling and racist, yes and I fit that profile to a T.
Anyways... could we get a glossary for the terms on an MS too? Also, where are the good sources of MS stuff? |
the only thing you'd see under the hood is the intake temp sensor, unless you retain the AFM/MAF, then there would be no change.
go to megamanual.com and msefi.com |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 133070)
adding everything up, I could do a:
MS DIY (with intake sensor) 95% PnP Harness JAW WBo2 (with sensor & w/o display) for $525 If you want EBC, add $40 (solenoid and all) |
Would the PnP Harness work with the 99-00? If so, I'll take the package! Sounds sweet.
-Carl
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 133070)
adding everything up, I could do a:
MS DIY (with intake sensor) 95% PnP Harness JAW WBo2 (with sensor & w/o display) for $525 If you want EBC, add $40 (solenoid and all) |
no one has a pnp harness for the 99 yet there are only a hand full of 99's running now i don't know if the mods are significant;y different for an NA-an NB but Braineack, or cjernigan would i think it is unlikely but have been wrong before
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I have built one before, wasn't too hard but fairly time consuming if you want things neat. Ended up selling the completed unit. When I want MegaSquirt again I will just buy the MSPNP one or maybe the V3 surface mount board.
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here's why it's 95% PnP.
https://www.miataturbo.net/braineack/MS/pnpharness.jpg The wires that are not wired are: Fuel Pump Ground WBo2 Intake Temp EBC Take care of that and a vacuum line and your home free! |
Braineack, do you think you could put one together that would work for a Subaru 2.5 liter engine? My neighbor wants to get a 2.5 for his sand rail and just needs rudimentary engine management.
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