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Steve Dallas 10-04-2017 07:09 PM

MS Dyno Tuner in the Dallas Area
 
I searched and came up with only old information. I need to have my car dyno tuned for track duty. Who is good in the Dallas area? And don't say Track Dog.

concealer404 10-04-2017 07:14 PM

You don't want your entire timing table to be 4 different values? Or your AFR target table to be 2 different values?

18psi 10-04-2017 07:18 PM

begi?

:bowrofl:

sorry I had to

SchmoozerJoe 10-04-2017 07:56 PM

Shoot me a PM.

Steve Dallas 10-04-2017 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1443950)
begi?

:bowrofl:

sorry I had to

I probably deserved that!


Originally Posted by SchmoozerJoe (Post 1443961)
Shoot me a PM.

Done.

90 Turbo 10-06-2017 01:04 AM

Never used them but http://www.prtperformance.com/service-and-installation.php
www.prtperformance.com

i believe they charge 400 to 600 for a complete tune with dyno and street tune but its been a few year since I talked to them.

Steve Dallas 10-06-2017 09:07 AM

^ That is Steve Kan, who has a reputation as being one of the best. I emailed him a couple of weeks ago. He seems to be busy with much cooler cars than a boring N/A Miata, and he quoted me a price that is higher than what is listed on PRT's web site to do mine. I get the vibe he doesn't want to do it. There is a shop next to my home track that tunes Miatas with Squirts, but I don't have any idea how good they are, and Google turns up nothing on their results. It's a $400 to $500 gamble. Still looking. I need to have this car track ready for an Oct 28 track day.

18psi 10-06-2017 10:21 AM

Are you trying to squeeze every last hp out of it? Is that why you need a dyno?
Cause otherwise you can street tune/e-tune your car for half that price and it will be 100% track safe. So there's that option.

Steve Dallas 10-06-2017 11:13 AM

^ Every last HP is what I'm thinking, since I'm still N/A and heavy. I have done some street tuning with conservative fuel and timing tables, but without more experience, I can't really tune for max power without doing it very incrementally and slowly. I also lack the time needed to complete it. Knocking it out in half a day on the dyno seems to be the way to go for my situation, assuming the tuner knows his stuff. <-- The rub is thataway.

I'm open to remote tuning, though. It's not rocket surgery.

18psi 10-06-2017 11:17 AM

Then make sure whoever tunes it does so on a proper (read: not DJ) dyno, and uses det cans and the oem knock sensor dialed in to work properly to tune it. Otherwise you're just setting money on fire, because the gains won't really be significant at all unless you're right on the edge of MBT. We turbocharge these cars cause they suck at making N/A power.

Steve Dallas 10-06-2017 11:23 AM

Right. I know all of that, which is why I'm hesitant to take it anywhere, since I can't find solid information on anyone around here.

But, I want my 130 HP by the 28th, dammit!!!

Steve Dallas 10-06-2017 01:53 PM

This seems crazy to me. I have previously searched this site, miata.net, and dwfmiata.com, and the only names I see are Steve Kan and hustler. Hmmm... My takeaway: I should probably just find the time to do it myself with a little ass-istance from my gay friends.

Steve Dallas 10-09-2017 09:07 AM

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So I found a shop and decided to maybe set some money on fire to get the car ready for the track ASAP. Results in terms of power are much disappoint, but I doubt it's the tuner's fault. Tune is attached. Feel free to tear it apart!

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18psi 10-09-2017 08:03 PM

tune looks okay assuming car is set up to follow the maps closely and accurately.
could easily take a couple more degrees timing and a lot more vvt advance for a few more ponies, and I'd add a tad more fuel at wot to the target table

Steve Dallas 10-09-2017 09:21 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it.

Honestly, I think it's a little rich pretty much all over.

All I can go on is what the tuner guy told me, because I was not allowed anywhere near the dyno due to liability concerns. He told me he advanced the timing and saw no gains in most areas, so he reverted it. He also told me he played with the VVT and saw little difference from the base settings. This is a shop that specializes in tracked Mazdas and supposedly has a lot of experience with MS. He spent a good 4 hours on it. I dunno.

I won't have time to mess with this again until sometime next week, as I leave for 4 days at Hallett in the RX-8 Wednesday afternoon, and I have to get that car ready, but when I get back, I can do some baseline pulls for Virtual Dyno, then do some pulls with any changes anyone wants to suggest. Or, if any of our remote tuners want to have a crack at it, I am open to that as well.

18psi 10-09-2017 10:37 PM

PM me if you want me to "take a crack at it". Some call me a remote tuner. Some call me crazy. Some call me maybe

Steve Dallas 10-10-2017 08:28 AM

^ It will prolly be around 2 weeks, before I will be able to get back to the Miata, but I'll ping you when I'm closer to being ready. Thanks!

Davidss 10-11-2017 02:00 AM

What shop did you end up going with?

Steve Dallas 10-11-2017 01:52 PM

Mazda Race Car Specialists · Motorsport Enterprises Racing

Castillo817 02-28-2018 12:36 PM

Not to bring this thread from the dead, but how much did they charge you? I'm about to boost mine. I have a base map ready along with small adjustments.


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