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Braineack 11-18-2013 02:10 PM

the picture you posted was a 94-97 MAF connector, not a 90-93 AFM connector...

that was reading fine, and wasn't the issue. it's all in fuel tuning right now.



do what i said, half the req_fuel value in there right now and just see what happens.



and again: is this a DIYPNP or a MSPNP2?

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 02:11 PM

All this megasquirt frustration and not being able to find any answers has me fed up to the point where I'm either A. Gonna part this car out..... Or B trade my megasquirt for someone's vortech fmu setup and
Call it a day.

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1074410)
the picture you posted was a 94-97 MAF connector, not a 90-93 AFM connector...

that was reading fine, and wasn't the issue. it's all in fuel tuning right now.



do what i said, half the req_fuel value in there right now and just see what happens.

I did that still doesn't start. Is there anyway you can look at the link for my tune file that I posted and go over it?

Braineack 11-18-2013 02:17 PM

i did, and i didnt see anything that stood out.


i also asked things about your vtps and specific megasquirt...

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1074415)
i did, and i didnt see anything that stood out.


i also asked things about your vtps and specific megasquirt...

My specific megasquirt is DIY pnp v2 and my tps is a e30 tps of some sort..... I calibrated it and all.

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 02:27 PM

I just don't understand what could be going wrong here if the stock ecu has the ability to fire right up and idle but the megasquirt can't do that with all the settings set correctly from DIY auto tune.... Something here is wrong..... I'll go over my timing again! Then I'll pull and test each wire for spark using test mode... And I'll do the same with injectors..... And if all is good then in out of ideas here guys...

vitamin j 11-18-2013 02:30 PM

It's probably your timing, adjust it in MS or by hand. Trial and error. Megasquirts should come with replacement starter motors lol

Braineack 11-18-2013 02:34 PM

it could be anything. it's happened to all of us.

who built the MS?

bahurd 11-18-2013 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by slammedkouki (Post 1074419)
I just don't understand what could be going wrong here if the stock ecu has the ability to fire right up and idle

Did you post a short vid of your car on facebook on 11/15 trying to idle with the stock ECU?

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1074424)
Did you post a short vid of your car on facebook on 11/15 trying to idle with the stock ECU?

YEPP THATS ME

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1074423)
it could be anything. it's happened to all of us.

who built the MS?

Tadd bailey... Member on here REDTURBOMIATA

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by vitamin j (Post 1074420)
It's probably your timing, adjust it in MS or by hand. Trial and error. Megasquirts should come with replacement starter motors lol

AGREED on Starter motors LOL. But I have a timing light on her and shes perfect STOCK timing!

bahurd 11-18-2013 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by slammedkouki (Post 1074427)
YEPP THATS ME

Your car barely could idle and REALLY rich. Not what I'd call 'idles on the stock ecu".

Like Brain says, you gotta get your fuel inline before it'll start. Maybe you should reload the base tune and ONLY screw with the req_fuel.

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1074433)
Your car barely could idle and REALLY rich. Not what I'd call 'idles on the stock ecu".

Like Brain says, you gotta get your fuel inline before it'll start. Maybe you should reload the base tune and ONLY screw with the req_fuel.

well what did you think it was gonna act like on a stock ecu with 440cc injectors, and a full turbo kit, with no maf, and a ait sensor.....

bahurd 11-18-2013 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by slammedkouki (Post 1074437)
well what did you think it was gonna act like on a stock ecu with 440cc injectors, and a full turbo kit, with no maf, and a ait sensor.....

Well... good luck to you then!

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1074442)
Well... good luck to you then!

not trying to be a dick im just extremely frustrated

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 10:55 PM

timing was a tooth off when i just checked..... FUCK hopefully after i fix this she will stay running.

vitamin j 11-18-2013 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by slammedkouki (Post 1074429)
AGREED on Starter motors LOL. But I have a timing light on her and shes perfect STOCK timing!

I meant ignition timing. Change your trigger angle in MS or adjust the CAS. No wait, read the manual.

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 11:13 PM

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We put the engine in time last time and didnt turn it over a few times to make sure the slack didnt change the engine timing.... We just assumed it was right.... it was off a tooth when we just checked. With that said is this where It has to be at this bottom pulley? WITH EVERYTHING LINED UP IN THE TRIANGLE UPSTAIRS and downstairs....

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384834427

slammedkouki 11-18-2013 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by vitamin j (Post 1074588)
I meant ignition timing. Change your trigger angle in MS or adjust the CAS. No wait, read the manual.

I knew what you meant but we thought we should check overall timing belt timing... thats where a big problem was...


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