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18psi 09-16-2015 09:43 AM

First off, yes you need a proper tps to do the tune justice.
Second, yes VEAL goes bonkers at idle, I usually set min 1200rpm and min 35kpa and tune everything below those by hand

concealer404 09-16-2015 09:50 AM

Do NOT autotune idle.

Reverant 09-16-2015 10:53 AM

My instructions state 1500rpm and 30kPa MAP as the minimum numbers to use.

satisfied 09-16-2015 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1267054)
My instructions state 1500rpm and 30kPa MAP as the minimum numbers to use.


Badass, I'll hybrid the suggestion and hit 35kPa and 1500rpm as the mins. Thanks guys!

satisfied 09-19-2015 07:28 PM

Mi idle kPA is reading 14.... I don't think that's normal.

18psi 09-19-2015 07:29 PM

nope. sho aint

satisfied 09-19-2015 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1268117)
nope. sho aint


So vacuum leak then? Have anything to do with my VTA BOV?

18psi 09-19-2015 08:07 PM

if it's speed density then no, a leak would make it read higher
unless you're tee'd off a really weird place for the map sensor, and not the manifold like you're supposed to
or unless the leak is at the line going to the map

satisfied 09-19-2015 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1268120)
if it's speed density then no, a leak would make it read higher
unless you're tee'd off a really weird place for the map sensor, and not the manifold like you're supposed to
or unless the leak is at the line going to the map


God damnit. Just got the interior back in. I tee'd off at the twin TB nipples, as they were free. with my boost gauge tee'd off the line going from the TB nipple to the MAP as they were both going to the interior... Was this wrong? Even under throttle, it's not moving beyond 12.7 now. Seems to get worse as it gets warm...

Since my boost gauge is in line with my TB nipple to MAP, I will say with the car off, the boost gauge reads 0 with it on and idling, it reads 24VAC, raising slowly as I increase RPM in neutral.

satisfied 09-19-2015 08:33 PM

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Here's a log of me trying to get to 5k RPM in neutral without AFR's going to 16+ Not sure if it will help diagnosis.

DNMakinson 09-19-2015 08:33 PM

<p>Tee off the line going to the Fuel Pressure Regulator. Mazda thinks it is the best place to measure manifold pressure.&nbsp;</p>

18psi 09-19-2015 08:36 PM

find where you kinked the vacuum line to the map sensor
if the gauge is reading vacuum fine then it's probably that

satisfied 09-19-2015 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1268126)
find where you kinked the vacuum line to the map sensor
if the gauge is reading vacuum fine then it's probably that

Fantastic troubleshooting. It must be after the boost gauge as the gauge is reading normal. Fuckin a peter, lemme just poop then I'll fix stuff.

satisfied 09-19-2015 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by satisfied (Post 1268128)
Fantastic troubleshooting. It must be after the boost gauge as the gauge is reading normal. Fuckin a peter, lemme just poop then I'll fix stuff.


You guys are god damned geniuses. Kink at kick plate after the boost gauge T! Removed excess line, retested kpa at 30-35 for idle!!!

ryansmoneypit 09-19-2015 09:26 PM

Fixed.

satisfied 09-19-2015 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1268131)
Fixed.

Boosted for the first time today. Holy fuck rev, thanks. Couple flat spots 2nd to 3rd with no one to accurately witness why, but it's boss as fuck.


:likecat: I love you assholes.

Reverant 09-20-2015 05:10 AM

Yay!

satisfied 09-20-2015 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1268173)
Yay!


I'll be throwing on VTPS today, hopefully I don't hose all the data by introducing that, and I'm hoping it clears up the first gear hesitation/stumble/possible stall if you're not careful! :likecat::likecat::likecat:

Rev your basemaps are the best thing ever. I never felt like the engine was in danger while gently street tuning the car.

I can't wait to tune my wife's 1.8 VVT swapped NA.

satisfied 09-20-2015 11:57 PM

Stumble is still there, significantly lessened however. Anyone have tips for making changes to idle while many accessories are on? Heater, windshield wipers, lights, and blinker? I'm at 14.2 AFR no electrical load and 16.8 with all those things on. Is that okay? Tips for first/reverse stumble?

I went with TPS4185 it wasn't fun, about a 2 hour job total.

satisfied 09-21-2015 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by satisfied (Post 1268338)
Stumble is still there, significantly lessened however. Anyone have tips for making changes to idle while many accessories are on? Heater, windshield wipers, lights, and blinker? I'm at 14.2 AFR no electrical load and 16.8 with all those things on. Is that okay? Tips for first/reverse stumble?

I went with TPS4185 it wasn't fun, about a 2 hour job total.


Getting massive flat spots in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th as I get ballsy with the throttle. I read several threads, turned on AE, TPSDOT, calibrated the new VTPS, at low RPM the flat spots are WORSE, at high RPM they've become MUCH MUCH BETTER!!!

How do we eliminate these?


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