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duffbuster243 12-11-2013 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by kero (Post 1081511)
I, too, have the same issue.

MS1 v3 DIY built myself following the original thread.

I am getting dropouts around 3.5k RPM, so basically highway cruising.

I was able to follow the instructions pretty well to build the MS board as the picture tutorial was great. I tried to read the schematic but I am not 100% sure as I do not know symbols for everything. I used my mad MSPaint skills to add on to DIY's mod photo to show how I would solder in this 2nd opto circuit.

Can anyone confirm that this is correct?

Looks good, Just remove the original 2 resistors (Red Lines) that go from IAC1A to 5v and js8. I build my circuit on one of these: Dual General-Purpose IC PC Board : PC Boards | RadioShack.com and mounted it in the case.

kero 12-11-2013 01:01 PM

Is there a different optoisolator I could use that I could source from Radioshack or Fry's? I tried searching 4N25 on their sites, but nothing came up

mellowout 12-11-2013 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by kero (Post 1081658)
Is there a different optoisolator I could use that I could source from Radioshack or Fry's? I tried searching 4N25 on their sites, but nothing came up

I think there is a 4n25 already on the ms3.0 board. Not sure if you could use it or not.

duffbuster243 12-11-2013 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by mellowout (Post 1081738)
I think there is a 4n25 already on the ms3.0 board. Not sure if you could use it or not.

the 4n25 on the ms board is used already for the primary input from the CAS. what you are esentually doing with this mod is duplicating that circuit for the sencondary input from the CAS. Digikey is fairly quick with their orders, I never looks elsewhere for the 4n25.

kero 12-11-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duffbuster243 (Post 1081577)
Looks good, Just remove the original 2 resistors (Red Lines) that go from IAC1A to 5v and js8. I build my circuit on one of these: Dual General-Purpose IC PC Board : PC Boards | RadioShack.com and mounted it in the case.

Is there enough room to mount one of those? (I'm using the stock DIY case)

That seems like a neat way to do it

edit:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386811847

Parts list of what I just ordered

240_to_miata 12-12-2013 12:28 PM

My MS has been changed so much over the years I gave up on my sloppy proto area. I just recently used that radio shack board in an external enclosure and just popped the necessary wires out of my MS enclosure to use for VCCS Sucks, but it was the easiest way.

duffbuster243 12-12-2013 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by kero (Post 1081880)
Is there enough room to mount one of those? (I'm using the stock DIY case)

That seems like a neat way to do it

Mine fit fine in the stock case. I cut the wafer in half though as you only need 6 slots of it for the 4n25.

kero 12-12-2013 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by duffbuster243 (Post 1082080)
Mine fit fine in the stock case. I cut the wafer in half though as you only need 6 slots of it for the 4n25.

How did you mount it? screws? doube sided tape?

duffbuster243 12-13-2013 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by kero (Post 1082211)
How did you mount it? screws? doube sided tape?

On the back side of the board using one of the leftover holes on the heatsink, using one bolt and a little bit of hot glue to keep it from vibrating around.

mellowout 12-14-2013 06:07 PM

Wired mine in the proto area using kero's picture. just took it for a (short) drive down the road. Too soon to report no problems, but it runs, which is good.

240_to_miata 12-14-2013 06:17 PM

Nice. I will do mine this winter. I moved to a new shop last night. Driving on the highway @ 3400 for 20 minutes in 20*f weather it happened about 4 times.

kero 12-14-2013 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by mellowout (Post 1082831)
Wired mine in the proto area using kero's picture. just took it for a (short) drive down the road. Too soon to report no problems, but it runs, which is good.

Sweet. My optoisolator should be here Monday, hopefully I can do mine on Tuesday.

kero 12-18-2013 08:59 PM

I just installed my circuit. Still had the same issue occur on the highway. Could my igniter just be taking a shit?

mellowout 12-19-2013 06:58 PM

I've noticed that I'm still getting the misfire as well. I took a log and haven't seen an rpm spike but still had the stutter, albeit seemingly less often. I'll post my log up soon.

kero 12-19-2013 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by mellowout (Post 1084525)
I've noticed that I'm still getting the misfire as well. I took a log and haven't seen an rpm spike but still had the stutter, albeit seemingly less often. I'll post my log up soon.

Mine still shows in logs. I've read somewhere that a failing ignitor can cause this. Do you have a spare to test? I don't have another to try. I'm kinda dumbfounded

mellowout 12-21-2013 07:12 PM

I don't think 1.8s use igniters like 1.6s do. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm going to try to post my log up tonight.

kero 12-21-2013 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by mellowout (Post 1085043)
I don't think 1.8s use igniters like 1.6s do. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm going to try to post my log up tonight.

Yes and no. They are just built into the coilpack. I wonder if coils themselves could be weak. I think I will try upgrading to Toyota COPs

mellowout 12-22-2013 02:53 AM

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Here's my log

240_to_miata 12-22-2013 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by kero (Post 1085045)
Yes and no. They are just built into the coilpack. I wonder if coils themselves could be weak. I think I will try upgrading to Toyota COPs

I did that with no success. Still had misfire after.

kero 12-22-2013 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 1085109)
I did that with no success. Still had misfire after.

So what's left then? lol

CAS going intermittent?


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