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aidandj 09-30-2014 03:19 PM

MS3+MS3x Lost Fan Control
 
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To start things off I have my fan output wired to INJG as in Westfields build guide. And it was working. Randomly it stopped working and the fan has been always on ever since. As soon as the key is on the fan is on.

List of things I have checked.

-Fan Relay Clicks when unplugged and plugged.
-Fan does not turn on when ECU is not connected.
-Thermoswitch disconnected

Attached is my msq. I'm assuming something on the board is fried, or I have a setting wrong. Any input is appreciated.

ADJ

Reverant 09-30-2014 03:38 PM

Injector driver is dead.

aidandj 09-30-2014 03:39 PM

What would have caused this?

aidandj 09-30-2014 03:49 PM

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Once again my problem stems from my failures, not the failures of the components.

Somehow I missed this when I was putting it together. Fan output shorted straight to ground...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412106593

Reverant 09-30-2014 03:50 PM

These drivers are known to randomly fail.

aidandj 09-30-2014 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1171823)
These drivers are known to randomly fail.

Check my reply above.

Reverant 09-30-2014 03:54 PM

Looks good lol.

Chiburbian 09-30-2014 05:37 PM

If an injector driver fails on the expander board is the only solution to buy a new board? I have already replaced so many items on my megasquirt that I am afraid of this happening to me. If so, I will have replaced nearly everything on my MS3 at least once...

Ben 09-30-2014 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Chiburbian (Post 1171868)
If an injector driver fails on the expander board is the only solution to buy a new board? I have already replaced so many items on my megasquirt that I am afraid of this happening to me. If so, I will have replaced nearly everything on my MS3 at least once...

They are under warranty for 1 year. If not under warranty (and if you are unable to handle the re-work/soldering yourself), the easiest solution is to buy a new card.

The VNDs fail pretty rarely actually. The only exception is there seems to have been a small bad batch of them about 4+ years ago.

aidandj 09-30-2014 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1171919)
They are under warranty for 1 year. If not under warranty (and if you are unable to handle the re-work/soldering yourself), the easiest solution is to buy a new card.

The VNDs fail pretty rarely actually. The only exception is there seems to have been a small bad batch of them about 4+ years ago.

Are they surface mount or through hole?

Reverant 10-01-2014 01:52 AM

SMD.

Braineack 10-01-2014 07:57 AM

That's exactly why I never opted to build MS3 harnesses like Frank's writeup. As much as I like the solution, I hate it.

The driver is $1.65 at digikey or mouser. it's probably the easiest SMD component to replace; or just move the output to any spares you might have.

Ben 10-01-2014 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1171943)
Are they surface mount or through hole?

Surface, but it's easy to work with as it's a large component with large pins.

aidandj 10-01-2014 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1172000)
That's exactly why I never opted to build MS3 harnesses like Frank's writeup. As much as I like the solution, I hate it.

The driver is $1.65 at digikey or mouser. it's probably the easiest SMD component to replace; or just move the output to any spares you might have.

It seems a lot better in concept than it does in practice. It limits your mounting possibilities, and really crowds the case. Oh well it was a good experience. The next one I build will use a DB-37 for sure.

Braineack 10-02-2014 08:27 AM

I would even rather drill a hole through the case and run the wires out the db37 and then back into the case to the connector before I desoldered the expander board like that.


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