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MS3-Pros hit the shelves!
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MS3-Pro with 8' wiring harness
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357137100 The MS3-Pro is our newest standalone engine management system. We've had several of them being tested on Miatas already, and we're now ready to offer them for sale to the general public. Some highlights of its feature list:
Price is $1199 with an 8' harness. |
"it will be released sometime in 2013"
Comes out Jan 2nd. You guys don't mess around :party: Quick question: the wiring harness you talk about, is that a pnp one or generic that one would have to modify to fit their year? |
I had two weeks to make a harness for mine; I'm so lazy.
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I have the weirdest boner right now
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:laugh:
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Originally Posted by 18psi
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Quick question: the wiring harness you talk about, is that a pnp one or generic that one would have to modify to fit their year?
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It's generic. there's 8' of wire on each of the two connectors you see on the MS3pro. One has integrated USB input, the other a serial.
You'll want to get a DIYBOB to complete the harness for most "PNP" installs. you can then put your MAP sensor inside the proto area of the BOB, which is what I plan on doing. Maybe I'll do it today and show you. |
do it
DO IT So I can be jelly:( |
challenge accepted.
Matt, am I correct in thinking that the serial cable port and/or the USB port can pull off the internal datalogs on the SD card inside? |
Yes it can, albeit it will take ages to pull significant amounts of data off the SD card through the serial/USB (about 72 seconds for each MB of datalog).
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Originally Posted by 18psi
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"it will be released sometime in 2013"
Comes out Jan 2nd. You guys don't mess around :party: |
If it didn't happen on the forums, it DIDN'T HAPPEN:giggle:
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Originally Posted by 18psi
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do it
DO IT So I can be jelly:( I think this is how I'm going to do the MAP sensor. I can put the resistor and caps I need in there easily. This version of the connectorboard on the BOB doesn't have the proto area the last I had in my possession had so I'm just going to use the 12 pin connector pins, since I wont need it; I already have the spare 16 pin to populate with spares i/o's. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357251499 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357251499 Here's the last one I had: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...-52-30_987-jpg |
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Is that what that extra circuit board is for? Ive spent the last year and a half second guessing myself for leaving it out. lmfao
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it's for anything. the above i put a high side driver circuit in it.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
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it's for anything. the above i put a high side driver circuit in it.
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High side driver circuit:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357356547 For use in 1.6 Miata, the fuel pump out pin goes to "VTEC Out from MS" and "VTEC Out" is your +12V to backfeed the fuel pump circuit. |
Was kinda wondering how this was put into a DIYBOB board? I'm using a solid state relay instead... But this might be cheaper?! Not much though.
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I do something different now: I just send the fuel pump out to 2O, then jump the corresponding pin on the AFM connector to the fuel pump relay.
Harness is 98% complete. I dont have written down my 16-pin connector pinout, so I need to go pull my harness and match up the wires. I have my: 2 extra fuel outputs, two spark outputs, o2 IN, boost OUT, a spare 12v, ground, VVS IN, and knock IN. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357412003 Rough idea what the harness looks like: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357412003 I would have finished this a while ago, but I was slowed by the new connectors and the labeled wires which don't necessarily match the function of the ms3pro; yet? |
Sounds cool. My ms3pro is also going to be rewired for a BOB so would be good to closely follow your lead so share any more details as you can!
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not much else to it. but now i just realized i didn't run the wire for there map sensor.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
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I would have finished this a while ago, but I was slowed by the new connectors and the labeled wires which don't necessarily match the function of the ms3pro; yet?
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Originally Posted by Ben
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You got a beta harness which was made with what we had on-hand. We didn't have the real deal MS3-Pro wiring in yet. All production release MS3-Pro wiring harnesses have correct, MS3-Pro specific wiring.
I figured as much, and why i said yet. No issue, I just went by the handy dandy pinout cheat sheet on the underside of the unit. I also referred to the stellar installation manual to figure out what to put my inputs and outputs on for launch/ac/boost/etc. Kudos to that documentation. My harness is ready to install: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357486526 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357486526 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357486526 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357486526 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357486526 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1357486526 Pookie also helped: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F...106_094944.jpg |
One thing I forgot to mention, I really like how you decided to go with "digital input 1-2-3" as oppossed to "launch in, datalog in, table switch in"
If those inputs only had one function and one only, sure it makes sense, but it gets confusing after a while to say, "I have VVT on nitrous 1, and a/c in on tableswitch, and tableswitching on datalog in..." Right now I have A/C on digital in 1, clutch on digital in 2, VSS on digital in 3, knock on knock 1. So much easier. I still put my a/c out on a spare injector channel, just cause I'm used to it, but maybe if I were to do it again, I'd just use a spare high current out. |
You're welcome. ;)
We're also working with Phil to allow the user to "tag" I/O with custom names. So in TunerStudio you could label Digital In 1 "AC Input", so anywhere TunerStudio references the pin, it would be called "Digital 1 In AC Input" and so on. |
oh i like that idea.
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Originally Posted by Ben
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You're welcome. ;)
We're also working with Phil to allow the user to "tag" I/O with custom names. So in TunerStudio you could label Digital In 1 "AC Input", so anywhere TunerStudio references the pin, it would be called "Digital 1 In AC Input" and so on. My one bugbear with MS is the freaking naming of pins and outputs etc. Thankfully I note that the devs are also standardising all that too! |
Didn't realize how small this was. Bob needs to go on a diet. What's the head phones Scott, knock?
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The 2.5mm jack is the serial port connector on the beta harnesses. Regular production harnesses use a 9 pin plug that can be removed and then replaced with a waterproof cap.
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