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oprso 11-22-2013 01:05 AM

MS3X no start with "Miata 99-05" mode
 
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New MS3X on 94 motor with VVT head.
run ok with 4g63 mode with stock CAS.
switch to Miata 99-05, no luck.
CKS and CMS works.
No idea how the trigger setting work. please point me to the right direction.


attached log file from composite logger and tune.


Please help.

Thanks

18psi 11-22-2013 01:54 AM

Are you using all NB sensors?

oprso 11-22-2013 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1075882)
Are you using all NB sensors?

cam sensor came with the head so i suppose it's stock nb sensor. crank sensor from DIYautotune.
trigger wheel was from a 323. which look the same as the NB one.

Braineack 11-22-2013 07:15 AM

it appears to be syncing in that log you sent, cant you post a screenshot of the composite log? i cant view it in software here. you probably just need to fine tune your crossoverpoint pots.

oprso 11-22-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1075902)
it appears to be syncing in that log you sent, cant you post a screenshot of the composite log? i cant view it in software here. you probably just need to fine tune your crossoverpoint pots.

thanks.

Braineack 11-22-2013 09:16 AM

looks like you're syncing.

oprso 11-22-2013 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1075930)
looks like you're syncing.

so the sensor and the trigger is installed correctly?
what i should play with then?

oprso 11-25-2013 01:44 AM

is the green line suppose to be CAM?

Braineack 11-25-2013 07:36 AM

oh yeah. looks like you have your sensors reversed.

Ben 11-25-2013 08:34 AM

Per your log, you have your crank sensor wired to your cam input and your cam sensor wired to your crank input.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...-05-mode-2-jpg

oprso 11-26-2013 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1076589)
Per your log, you have your crank sensor wired to your cam input and your cam sensor wired to your crank input.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...-05-mode-2-jpg

yes. i finally notice this problem and I just killed my starter........

oprso 11-26-2013 12:00 PM

new starter installed. wire swapped. Started to combust but still no start.
I can start the engine in 4g63 mode, so i suppose the fuel figure should work in miata 99-05 mode. <-- is this correct?
i hooked up the timing light but it didnt work at cranking speed. how can I get the base timing right?
What else can I go wrong?

For the "Ignition Input Capture" should I use Rising edge or Falling edge?

oprso 11-26-2013 10:15 PM

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here is another 2 log.
I got combustion but it didn't start.
is there anything to do with the "Trigger angle/offset" ? I set it to 0
also I haven't connect the vvt control. will it affect?

video clip of my cranking

Ben 11-30-2013 10:07 AM

I can't view your trigger logs on my desktop at home, but you're still not syncing.

oprso 11-30-2013 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1078193)
I can't view your trigger logs on my desktop at home, but you're still not syncing.

Its still not working. I have no idea what to do. Is it the problem of the hardware adjustment or its the software tune problem?

oprso 12-02-2013 06:54 AM

I custom made the sensor mount. Do I need a calibration ?

Ben 12-02-2013 09:13 AM

Your cam and crank inputs are still wired backwards. It's not going to start until you fix that.

oprso 12-02-2013 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1078590)
Your cam and crank inputs are still wired backwards. It's not going to start until you fix that.

arrr.. OMG.. i made this mistake again.... Sorry, i will fix it and mark the cable tomorrow.


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