MSLabs Contact Info?
Has anyone placed an order or had contact with MSLabs this year? I am desperately ready to implement MS on my MSM - I have now encountered all the classic frustrations with the stock ECU.
At the very beginning of the year I had an e-mail response from Dimitris and he reported that he was about to release a new MS3 board. I have been unable to make contact since indicating that I was ready to place an order. Any recommendations on how to proceed? It seems Trackspeed no longer "stocks" any MSLabs ECUs. Thanks. |
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Thanks. But no response to a couple DMs over as many months. Maybe that’s the answer?
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I would recommend ordering a Mini MS3. The newer Basic and Enhanced/Extreme won't be ready for a couple of months. Email me if a Mini suits your needs.
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Oh great - glad to learn of the development schedule. Any chance we can get a briefing on what to expect with the new units? The latest comparison I could find does not appear to include the Mini MS3. It would be interesting to consider a Mini MS3 for the near future and a possible upgrade path to one of the new units later this summer. Thanks for the update.
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https://www.mslabs.gr/mslc.html shows the current offerings, including the Minis.
The newer units will be case-less. This means you will install them in the stock ECU case, just like the Mini. This provides a superior mounting way compared to the current cases, ie the ECU will now mount in the stock position exactly like stock. The new Basic units will switch to full autoprotected outputs. This means you can't burn or destroy an output by short-circuit, thermal stress, over-current. You can still damage the ECU in other ways, but the more common ones will just lead to temporarily disabling the output. The new Extreme will also include fully protected digital inputs, integrated wideband controller with diagnosis (LSU 4.9) and DBW, among other improvements. |
Hopefully the enhanced and extreme will drop sooner than later. I'm liking what the package has to offer, and my Kraken kit is coming in soon!
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1596601)
https://www.mslabs.gr/mslc.html shows the current offerings, including the Minis.
The newer units will be case-less. This means you will install them in the stock ECU case, just like the Mini. This provides a superior mounting way compared to the current cases, ie the ECU will now mount in the stock position exactly like stock. The new Basic units will switch to full autoprotected outputs. This means you can't burn or destroy an output by short-circuit, thermal stress, over-current. You can still damage the ECU in other ways, but the more common ones will just lead to temporarily disabling the output. The new Extreme will also include fully protected digital inputs, integrated wideband controller with diagnosis (LSU 4.9) and DBW, among other improvements. Are you still basing your custom FW on 1.4, or will you be moving to 1.5? |
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1596601)
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New MS Labs drop date?
Any update on availability of the new units? Looking forward to getting one coming.
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For now, there is a small refresh on the Basic units, with new, overcurrent/overvoltage autoprotected outputs. Still in an extruded aluminium enclosure and not in a stock case.
As for the Enhanced/Extreme units, this is taking a little longer than expected as we are trying to figure out how to cram everything inside the space of a stock ECU and where to put the expansion connectors - the stock ECU is in the dashboard on US cars and on the passenger footwell on every other car. To make matters worse, LHD/RHD have reversed orientation of the wiring that passes by on the side of the ECU, meaning the connectors can't be placed on the side of the ECU or they will interfere with the wiring on either the LHD or the RHD version of the ECU. That only leaves the top (ie not the top cover), which is a small space as it has the braces that hold the stock ECU in place. It's a quite a puzzle. |
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1603660)
For now, there is a small refresh on the Basic units, with new, overcurrent/overvoltage autoprotected outputs. Still in an extruded aluminium enclosure and not in a stock case.
As for the Enhanced/Extreme units, this is taking a little longer than expected as we are trying to figure out how to cram everything inside the space of a stock ECU and where to put the expansion connectors - the stock ECU is in the dashboard on US cars and on the passenger footwell on every other car. To make matters worse, LHD/RHD have reversed orientation of the wiring that passes by on the side of the ECU, meaning the connectors can't be placed on the side of the ECU or they will interfere with the wiring on either the LHD or the RHD version of the ECU. That only leaves the top (ie not the top cover), which is a small space as it has the braces that hold the stock ECU in place. It's a quite a puzzle. That's awesome, These units just keep getting better! Will my Basic on order have the new protected outputs? (Alex Australia) Cant wait for it to arrive. :D |
Hi Alex,
no, the 96-97 units haven't been updated yet, the reason being that these are very low sales units, and a refresh won't happen until the current stock of boards is exhausted. The 90-97 1.6L & 94-95 1.8L, the 99-00 and the 01-05 now have the protected outputs. |
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1603716)
Hi Alex,
no, the 96-97 units haven't been updated yet |
Extreme updated ETA?
Any updates on the much anticipated Extreme development? Looking forward to any news.
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Originally Posted by amizuta
(Post 1596438)
Thanks. But no response to a couple DMs over as many months. Maybe that’s the answer?
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1596484)
I would recommend ordering a Mini MS3. The newer Basic and Enhanced/Extreme won't be ready for a couple of months. Email me if a Mini suits your needs.
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