MSLabs Contact Info?
03-29-2021, 03:32 PM
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MSLabs Contact Info?
Has anyone placed an order or had contact with MSLabs this year? I am desperately ready to implement MS on my MSM - I have now encountered all the classic frustrations with the stock ECU.
At the very beginning of the year I had an e-mail response from Dimitris and he reported that he was about to release a new MS3 board. I have been unable to make contact since indicating that I was ready to place an order.
Any recommendations on how to proceed? It seems Trackspeed no longer "stocks" any MSLabs ECUs. Thanks.
At the very beginning of the year I had an e-mail response from Dimitris and he reported that he was about to release a new MS3 board. I have been unable to make contact since indicating that I was ready to place an order.
Any recommendations on how to proceed? It seems Trackspeed no longer "stocks" any MSLabs ECUs. Thanks.
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03-30-2021, 11:54 PM
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Oh great - glad to learn of the development schedule. Any chance we can get a briefing on what to expect with the new units? The latest comparison I could find does not appear to include the Mini MS3. It would be interesting to consider a Mini MS3 for the near future and a possible upgrade path to one of the new units later this summer. Thanks for the update.
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03-31-2021, 05:39 AM
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https://www.mslabs.gr/mslc.html shows the current offerings, including the Minis.
The newer units will be case-less. This means you will install them in the stock ECU case, just like the Mini. This provides a superior mounting way compared to the current cases, ie the ECU will now mount in the stock position exactly like stock.
The new Basic units will switch to full autoprotected outputs. This means you can't burn or destroy an output by short-circuit, thermal stress, over-current. You can still damage the ECU in other ways, but the more common ones will just lead to temporarily disabling the output.
The new Extreme will also include fully protected digital inputs, integrated wideband controller with diagnosis (LSU 4.9) and DBW, among other improvements.
The newer units will be case-less. This means you will install them in the stock ECU case, just like the Mini. This provides a superior mounting way compared to the current cases, ie the ECU will now mount in the stock position exactly like stock.
The new Basic units will switch to full autoprotected outputs. This means you can't burn or destroy an output by short-circuit, thermal stress, over-current. You can still damage the ECU in other ways, but the more common ones will just lead to temporarily disabling the output.
The new Extreme will also include fully protected digital inputs, integrated wideband controller with diagnosis (LSU 4.9) and DBW, among other improvements.
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03-31-2021, 11:28 PM
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https://www.mslabs.gr/mslc.html shows the current offerings, including the Minis.
The newer units will be case-less. This means you will install them in the stock ECU case, just like the Mini. This provides a superior mounting way compared to the current cases, ie the ECU will now mount in the stock position exactly like stock.
The new Basic units will switch to full autoprotected outputs. This means you can't burn or destroy an output by short-circuit, thermal stress, over-current. You can still damage the ECU in other ways, but the more common ones will just lead to temporarily disabling the output.
The new Extreme will also include fully protected digital inputs, integrated wideband controller with diagnosis (LSU 4.9) and DBW, among other improvements.
The newer units will be case-less. This means you will install them in the stock ECU case, just like the Mini. This provides a superior mounting way compared to the current cases, ie the ECU will now mount in the stock position exactly like stock.
The new Basic units will switch to full autoprotected outputs. This means you can't burn or destroy an output by short-circuit, thermal stress, over-current. You can still damage the ECU in other ways, but the more common ones will just lead to temporarily disabling the output.
The new Extreme will also include fully protected digital inputs, integrated wideband controller with diagnosis (LSU 4.9) and DBW, among other improvements.
Are you still basing your custom FW on 1.4, or will you be moving to 1.5?
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07-03-2021, 01:41 PM
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For now, there is a small refresh on the Basic units, with new, overcurrent/overvoltage autoprotected outputs. Still in an extruded aluminium enclosure and not in a stock case.
As for the Enhanced/Extreme units, this is taking a little longer than expected as we are trying to figure out how to cram everything inside the space of a stock ECU and where to put the expansion connectors - the stock ECU is in the dashboard on US cars and on the passenger footwell on every other car. To make matters worse, LHD/RHD have reversed orientation of the wiring that passes by on the side of the ECU, meaning the connectors can't be placed on the side of the ECU or they will interfere with the wiring on either the LHD or the RHD version of the ECU. That only leaves the top (ie not the top cover), which is a small space as it has the braces that hold the stock ECU in place. It's a quite a puzzle.
As for the Enhanced/Extreme units, this is taking a little longer than expected as we are trying to figure out how to cram everything inside the space of a stock ECU and where to put the expansion connectors - the stock ECU is in the dashboard on US cars and on the passenger footwell on every other car. To make matters worse, LHD/RHD have reversed orientation of the wiring that passes by on the side of the ECU, meaning the connectors can't be placed on the side of the ECU or they will interfere with the wiring on either the LHD or the RHD version of the ECU. That only leaves the top (ie not the top cover), which is a small space as it has the braces that hold the stock ECU in place. It's a quite a puzzle.
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07-05-2021, 12:35 AM
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For now, there is a small refresh on the Basic units, with new, overcurrent/overvoltage autoprotected outputs. Still in an extruded aluminium enclosure and not in a stock case.
As for the Enhanced/Extreme units, this is taking a little longer than expected as we are trying to figure out how to cram everything inside the space of a stock ECU and where to put the expansion connectors - the stock ECU is in the dashboard on US cars and on the passenger footwell on every other car. To make matters worse, LHD/RHD have reversed orientation of the wiring that passes by on the side of the ECU, meaning the connectors can't be placed on the side of the ECU or they will interfere with the wiring on either the LHD or the RHD version of the ECU. That only leaves the top (ie not the top cover), which is a small space as it has the braces that hold the stock ECU in place. It's a quite a puzzle.
As for the Enhanced/Extreme units, this is taking a little longer than expected as we are trying to figure out how to cram everything inside the space of a stock ECU and where to put the expansion connectors - the stock ECU is in the dashboard on US cars and on the passenger footwell on every other car. To make matters worse, LHD/RHD have reversed orientation of the wiring that passes by on the side of the ECU, meaning the connectors can't be placed on the side of the ECU or they will interfere with the wiring on either the LHD or the RHD version of the ECU. That only leaves the top (ie not the top cover), which is a small space as it has the braces that hold the stock ECU in place. It's a quite a puzzle.
That's awesome, These units just keep getting better!
Will my Basic on order have the new protected outputs? (Alex Australia)
Cant wait for it to arrive.
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07-05-2021, 02:50 AM
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Hi Alex,
no, the 96-97 units haven't been updated yet, the reason being that these are very low sales units, and a refresh won't happen until the current stock of boards is exhausted. The 90-97 1.6L & 94-95 1.8L, the 99-00 and the 01-05 now have the protected outputs.
no, the 96-97 units haven't been updated yet, the reason being that these are very low sales units, and a refresh won't happen until the current stock of boards is exhausted. The 90-97 1.6L & 94-95 1.8L, the 99-00 and the 01-05 now have the protected outputs.
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