i paid today too hehe... i swapped injectors, got in the car, tried to use tunerstudio to set req_fuel, the demo had expired :'-(

Out of interest I left mine to expire and installed the "lite" version.

From my quick 5 min play, it seems alot of other stuff has been removed from the full version we have gotten so used to using.

View maps in 3D,
VE Autotune,
Secondary maps?,
Difference reports,
Customisible dashboards (means you have a default basic that is loaded everytime)

It was quite hairy loading my new MSQ up to the controller without the detailed difference report. I double checked dwell, and spark inversion etc before cranking. (because Im super safe to the extreme!)

Wow, these two are really, really bad. Especially the dashboard!

Dimitris

I know. You can actually still use your own "saved" .dash from previous versions. You are just forced to open and navigate to the appropriate setting. It's fine if you plan on a long tuning session for a few hours, but it does defeat the object of the "lite" version. If you needed to tune for a few hours, then you are probably tuning a car that is way off and would benifit from the full version.

I think the "lite" version is still very good, probably suited well to those of us who have reasonably tuned cars and don't require to carry the laptop around.

I'm at the stage now where I don't require VE autotune. When I have the laptop, I prefer to datalog a journey and manually go over my logs in MLV (I'll hit spacebar if something feels odd and then manually analyse later). I then might knock the odd fuel cell up/down a point.

The "old-style-tuning" via log/MLV is nowhere near as good as the VEanalyze live.

This is a screen shot of a run I did yesterday. - It's about 1 hour of driving done with veanalyze

Have a look at how the AFR follows the line called "real AFR target" - I could never get this so close with MLV.

As stated many times before - this piece of software is worth every cent I paid.

http://www.ingenieure-reichel.de/upl...afr_020510.jpg

Greets

Worth every $$$ Spend!! Great piece of software!!

I am wondering if anyone will agree with my thoughts, I saw the development roadmap for TS is that it will support multiple device.
If multiple device support will be build into TunnerStudio (The Best Tuning Software for MS in my dictionary), then, it will be best to support GTechPro-RR?
The reasons I've got these idea is because most megasquirt users are tuning older models car, which we will not be able to use gears and speed gauges already build into TS, unable to use the MPG goodies.
The only way to solve these in cheapest form are to support a USB GPS dongle (which respond slow and only tells latitude and longtitude that may plot running path), or a reasonable price performance device that may tell us our drag speed, Gforce, detecting rpm by sound and know our shifting point.
Another way of speaking is that we may tune, or at least get a reasonable idea on adjusting the spark with some concrete supporting facts data, in order to get the best pull from accelerations, wouldn't these wonderful that MS users will be able to tune for best torque, even without a dyno?
Furthermore, for those who go autocross and racing, it will also form a single data source out for software like Trackvision, this will definitely help on our lap times?
Anybody with me?
I am the first one that eager to see this happening in coming features from TS..

Isn't the software free ?

TunerStudio has a free and a paid version. VE Analyzer Live is a paid function.

Are these features that are "in the works" ? :drool:

Thanks Matt for the clarification :doh:

It's someone asking if it can be I think... it's hard to tell, seems to be a bit of a ramble/begging request.

I don't think Phil Tobin logs in here too often - the best place for rambling / begging requests would be MSExtra.com.

Yeah, but since coding is the hard part of the game, it's not worth doing anything if no users felt that they will support the products, and it seems nobody is having the same thoughts I have..
Maybe Run reference for comparasions / as an learning curve is really not that important in the reality..

i paid for mine and the autotune it's self was well worth the money. Now if i can just figure out why i can't upgrade to 0.999.3 i'll be all set.

From what I read in the tuners studio forums, 0.999.3 is the same as 0.999.1 so that people who got 0.999.2 have an easier downgrade path. Something big was broken in 0.999.2. There's a 0.999.5b beta floating around if you have to have the latest.

actually it's that tuner studio keeps telling me there are updates available, then not letting me download them. Really i don't care I don't think i'm missing out on anything.

Edit: alcohol was involved

Need to run the executable ( in program files > EFIAnalytics > tunersudioms ) as administrator (right click on TunerStudio.exe ) , *then* run the update. It needs admin rights to overwrite some of the jars..

HTH

Steve

or just download the new update from the website each time.

do you have to pay for tuner studio twice to have it on 2 computers? i ask because my laptop just fried the motherboard and i just got a new one.

You should read the license agreement because my memory might be hazy, but I'm pretty sure it says you're allowed to have it on 3 machines.