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Old 12-06-2007, 02:57 PM   #21
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because too much too quickly (more than plants can convert back to O2, especially when trees are being cut down at a rapid rate) creates the greenhouse gas effect.
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:59 PM   #22
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So what if I'm driving a car that has a 100% synthetic fuel with no hydrocarbon base what so ever burning in it?? Ie, ethanol?
Is it a spark-ignited internal combustion engine placed into an automobile? Then it needs to get smogged. The only exceptions are Hybrids and NatGas vehicles with a gross weight over 14k.

There's nothing special about "synthetic fuel" that makes it free of harmful emissions. I could build an engine to run on Amsoil and it would pollute the living hell out of everything. And you can generate NOx just as easily with a poorly tuned engine burning methanol / ethanol if you try hard enough. It might be "less bad" than an equivalent gasoline engine in an equally poor state of tune, but present nonetheless.


Thankfully, CA did finally stop issuing "Access OK" passes to hybrids (they capped the program at 85,000) and they actually disqualified all the hybrid SUVs that were getting pathetic mileage despite having a little DC motor in them.
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:53 AM   #23
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Gas-electric hybrid.. pathetic!



Thats MY kind of hybrid..



Biggest BOLT-IN hp gain in history of street driven cars. "Hmm.. I think I'll put a 1500hp chopper engine on my car converted from rotary to thrust..."
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Gas-electric hybrid.. pathetic!



Thats MY kind of hybrid..



Biggest BOLT-IN hp gain in history of street driven cars. "Hmm.. I think I'll put a 1500hp chopper engine on my car converted from rotary to thrust..."
better watch out where you put your hands on that thing, or you may not have any with where the intake is
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:40 AM   #25
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How bout that motorcycle owned by Jay Leno that has a chopper engine in it?

Ohhh but that's not exactly a hybrid.
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:41 AM   #26
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i prefer the tomahawk myself

but back to the OP, move somewhere that doesn't have smog
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Diesel-electric hybrid FTW!

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Old 12-07-2007, 03:11 PM   #28
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Oh I'm SO buying one!!!

If it only ran on Bio Diesel...
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In all seriousness, how do I pass California Emissions if I ended up with a Turbo Miata? Does anyone know of any shops in Orange County? I would really need to know if I am going to buy / build a turbo Miata.
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So what if I'm driving a car that has a 100% synthetic fuel with no hydrocarbon base what so ever burning in it?? Ie, ethanol?

Combustion of Ethanol forms Carbon Dioxide and Water... C2H5OH + 3 O2 → 2 CO2 + 3 H2O
Ethane is a hydrocarbon, ethane + 1 oxygen = ethanol.

Besides in North America, personal transportation emissions ~= public transit emissions (which is ok because they are gov't operated) but are dwarfed by agricultural emissions (again these are ok for some reason) of GHG's.

What's a real **** off is the obd2 scan. They are bringing this into Ontario in 2013 (for 98+ vehicles...phew), you automatically fail emissions if the cel lights up regardless if you pass the sniffer.
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