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dannymo 03-31-2015 01:19 PM

really need some help guys(can't start coils turning brown)
 
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Ok so i got my ms2 in, but i can't get it to start. I am starting to get really frustrated and need some pointers. with this my best attempt reached 950ish and i thought it was going to start. my toyota coils are turning brown like they are getting to hot. I have my settings at 3.5 cranking and 2.1 normal. i am afraid that im going to blow one of the coils. they make a wierd buzzing sound when first turning the key on. any help would be really appreciated at this point

thank you

p.s. included said best attempt

Matt Cramer 04-01-2015 01:24 PM

The coils getting hot suggests something's wrong with the spark output - how is that set up? What voltage does the spark output put out with the key on on and engine off?

dannymo 04-01-2015 03:57 PM

ok i have the 4 channel board (jbperf), i have a switch 12v and a ground. i have my tach wires grounded and i have my triggers from the board. i have hooked my spark tester to them and used the test option in TS and i get no spark. spark output? you talking about the trigger?

dannymo 04-01-2015 08:36 PM

i think i just fried all my coils :(. idk what i am doing wrong. i have tested all my triggers and they tested fine. they stay at 5v and the drop to zero during the pulse. i have my setting dwell at 2.1 and 3.5 cranking. and have 12 volts going in and a good ground. i have spark output going low

Ben 04-01-2015 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by dannymo (Post 1220672)
i think i just fried all my coils :(. idk what i am doing wrong. i have tested all my triggers and they tested fine. they stay at 5v and the drop to zero during the pulse. i have my setting dwell at 2.1 and 3.5 cranking. and have 12 volts going in and a good ground. i have spark output going low

That does NOT test fine. You should not have 5V constant on your ignition coil triggers. Most likely your spark output is inverted from where it should be.

dannymo 04-01-2015 08:57 PM

well shit that sucks. i have checked my board and everything looks correct. is there a setting in TS?

Joe Perez 04-01-2015 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dannymo (Post 1220680)
is there a setting in TS?

There's one big one, and that's the spark output polarity:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1427938174

For Megasquirts built to the conventional specification, this setting should be "Going High." This tells it to keep the output low (off) until it's time to dwell the coil.

The only time this should be "Going Low" is if you're using a non-standard spark output circuit which is inverting (technically double-inverting), such as the one I devised several years ago to cure the power-on-pop on the MS1.

dannymo 04-01-2015 10:09 PM

well that is exactly what is going on. thank you so very much this should be my last piece of the puzzle i need to get this thing running!... well until i get some new coils lol

Braineack 04-02-2015 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by dannymo (Post 1220700)
well that is exactly what is going on. thank you so very much this should be my last piece of the puzzle i need to get this thing running!... well until i get some new coils lol

it;s certainly one piece.


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