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mruskoo 07-26-2016 06:05 PM

does anyone know if megasquirt will work with an 06 miata. Everyone keeps throwing 2005 and lower

aidandj 07-26-2016 06:06 PM

Will it work: Yes.
Is there a large knowledge base that supports it and has experience with it: No

mruskoo 07-26-2016 06:12 PM

Thank you and if I just read the manuals and learned like everyone else and took my times things shouldn't be to difficult eh?

nolig2278 10-21-2016 12:24 AM

Hi All,
Does anyone have pictures of the actual wiring in of the resistors for the distributor pull ups needed by MS? I just want to see how it should look. I have seen plenty of wiring schematics.

Thanks

Matt Cramer 10-21-2016 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by nolig2278 (Post 1368987)
Hi All,
Does anyone have pictures of the actual wiring in of the resistors for the distributor pull ups needed by MS? I just want to see how it should look. I have seen plenty of wiring schematics.

Thanks

What MS variant, on what year Miata?

nolig2278 10-22-2016 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer (Post 1369031)
What MS variant, on what year Miata?

it is actually a 94 MX-3 but with a 1.8 BPT from Japan and Dizzy I think is either from Japan or 1.8 pull. Diyauto has told me it is the 4g63 setup so I am just trying to figure out how the 2 pull resistors really wire in. I would love to grimp in the resistors but I am suspecting this might be a solder job. I got tired of fighting my New Zeland ECU with who knows what VAF for getting the tunning right for the past 10 years so time for the MicroSquirt. I should be plugging into the car this weekend. I have a set and spare set of ls2 red truck coils from ebay. Will be running wasted spark. Microsquirt wiring harness to dizzy plug.

Any advice and really a picture or 2 of the unwrapped but already connected resistors would really be great. DIYauto also said to find 1/4 resistors, they didn't mention any other specs for the resistors. I have bags of resistors to choose from.

Thanks

phocup 01-25-2017 05:17 PM

Can anyone school me on how Reverant's MS3 solution is different ( if it is ) than Braineack's MS3 ?

I'm trying not to bother Rev with too many question today and also want to get different inputs / point of views.

Thanks.

shuiend 01-26-2017 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by phocup (Post 1388699)
Can anyone school me on how Reverant's MS3 solution is different ( if it is ) than Braineack's MS3 ?

I'm trying not to bother Rev with too many question today and also want to get different inputs / point of views.

Thanks.

Braineack builds standard MS3X's that you would get if you followed the MegaManual to build a MS3. Reverant uses the main MS3 board, and then designed his own expander board with his own circuits and such for all the extra features.

phocup 01-26-2017 11:43 AM

Thanks Lars.

ridethecliche 02-22-2017 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1388813)
Braineack builds standard MS3X's that you would get if you followed the MegaManual to build a MS3. Reverant uses the main MS3 board, and then designed his own expander board with his own circuits and such for all the extra features.

Sorry to bump this thread, but I was looking at differences between the MSPNP PRO and the MS3X DIY PNP (aka brain's unit). They're functionally the same in a different box right? Both built on the MS3 board?

Looks like the MSPNP PRO also plugs directly into the stock harness as well?

shuiend 02-24-2017 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1394736)
Sorry to bump this thread, but I was looking at differences between the MSPNP PRO and the MS3X DIY PNP (aka brain's unit). They're functionally the same in a different box right? Both built on the MS3 board?

Looks like the MSPNP PRO also plugs directly into the stock harness as well?

For all intents and purposes they are the same. The pro just has the MS3 chip built into a mainboard and expander board all in one layout. They also use a some slightly different more robust circuits then an standard MS3X. It also has the knock module and RTC built in, verse having to add those to a MS3X.

Matt Cramer 02-24-2017 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1394736)
Sorry to bump this thread, but I was looking at differences between the MSPNP PRO and the MS3X DIY PNP (aka brain's unit). They're functionally the same in a different box right? Both built on the MS3 board?

Looks like the MSPNP PRO also plugs directly into the stock harness as well?

The MSPNP Pro uses a board based on the MS3Pro - the short version is that it was almost a clean slate design where we looked at each circuit to see if it had room to be made more efficient, reliable, or reduce electrical noise. In addition to having knock input standard, we've given the MSPNP Pro built in peak and hold injector outputs, and keep them in stock ready for immediate shipping (worst case if you order at a really bad time is that it may take our solder tech 1-3 days to catch up).

aidandj 02-24-2017 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Cramer (Post 1394989)
The MSPNP Pro uses a board based on the MS3Pro - the short version is that it was almost a clean slate design where we looked at each circuit to see if it had room to be made more efficient, reliable, or reduce electrical noise. In addition to having knock input standard, we've given the MSPNP Pro built in peak and hold injector outputs, and keep them in stock ready for immediate shipping (worst case if you order at a really bad time is that it may take our solder tech 1-3 days to catch up).

Do you also provide phone support for the mspnppro? Or is that just the ms3pro and ultimate.

ridethecliche 02-25-2017 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Cramer (Post 1394989)
The MSPNP Pro uses a board based on the MS3Pro - the short version is that it was almost a clean slate design where we looked at each circuit to see if it had room to be made more efficient, reliable, or reduce electrical noise. In addition to having knock input standard, we've given the MSPNP Pro built in peak and hold injector outputs, and keep them in stock ready for immediate shipping (worst case if you order at a really bad time is that it may take our solder tech 1-3 days to catch up).

So basically, the bold is that only feature unique to the mspnp pro relative to the 3x. Otherwise, it's the same unit from a functionality standpoint, but it's engineered to be more efficient since the board is built specifically for this purpose. Correct?

Thanks! I was just trying to understand this stuff as I learn more about megasquirt and my unit in particular.

Matt Cramer 02-28-2017 08:59 AM

Depending on how a DIY MS3 is built, it may or may not have knock input.

ridethecliche 02-28-2017 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Cramer (Post 1395799)
Depending on how a DIY MS3 is built, it may or may not have knock input.

Sorry, I should have specified. My (brain) unit does.

Thanks for the info Matt. Hopefully this helps someone else in the future as well.

Neddy 12-26-2017 05:47 PM

Hi,

Can anyone enlighten me as to the differences or benefits of one over the other, between a MSLabs MS3 and DIY MSPNP Pro?

Can the MSPNP Pro accept a digital wideband signal via the CAN Bus as the MSLabs can (with their CAN Wideband Module)? Perhaps the MSPNP Pro can accept the MSLabs CAN Wideband Module?

Also, does the MSPNP Pro have OBD-II output?

Thanks

Braineack 12-27-2017 09:07 AM

you've basically just outlined the differences and advantages...

Neddy 12-30-2017 09:55 PM

949 Racing advertise their mspnp with
  • Headphone output for knock sensor - listen for knock while you tune!
Megasquirt PnP3 Miata

none of others advertise this as a feature, including diyauto, which appears to be same ecu as 949 picture. Is this a typo by 949 or a feature exclusive to them?

aidandj 12-30-2017 09:56 PM

That's an old diypnp feature. The MS3 ecus don't have it.

Braineack 12-31-2017 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1459244)
That's an old diypnp feature. The MS3 ecus don't have it.

its a feature of the mspnp gen2.

https://www.diyautotune.com/product/...-manual-trans/


  • Knock sensor input with adjustable sensitivity
  • Headphone output for knock sensor – listen for knock while you tune!

it's not a feature of a DIYPNP

aidandj 12-31-2017 01:40 PM

Yeah that, before my time.

Neddy 01-01-2018 11:52 PM

thank you for clearing that up

KevinK121 02-13-2018 09:23 AM

So rather than starting a new thread, I figured I'd just drop this question here.

***edit***

But then I made a thread anyways.

Deivid Usas 04-03-2018 11:26 AM

Quick question...
 
Hey,I want to get a mega squirt and my engine is bone stock what kind of benefits can i expect from this upgrade and what other things can i do to optimise the stock engine?

acedeuce802 04-03-2018 11:36 AM

You'll want to learn how to search before you dive into Megasquirt, it's a big learning curve and you won't have a good time if you can't figure out some things for yourself.

Google: "Miata Megasquirt naturally aspirated"

Spoon feed: https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-pe...g-ideas-83443/

rtp 10-10-2018 10:56 PM

Have read until my eyes are ready to bleed, saw the question but not the answer (I think).
Difference between MS3 Basic and MSPNP Pro?
i think they sre both the latest MS3 CPU, but then it gets fuzzy.

Is there a single source of firmware across both?
Both can use the CAN module, or??


Savington 10-11-2018 06:48 PM

Effectively, branding. They both use MS3 boards, but the mainboard is designed and produced by each vendor independently for their respective products. (MS Labs and DIY). Both can run any MS3 firmware. Both can use the MS Labs CAN module.

aidandj 10-11-2018 06:54 PM

MSPNP pro uses the ms3pro module. Which is different than the standard ms3 daughter board.

Otherwise yes, similar feature set.

KevinK121 12-18-2018 11:32 AM

Is there any significant difference in functionality between the older MS Labs MS3 Basic (with the larger form factor/box) and the modern ones on the shelf today?

Sent an email to rev a couple days ago but no dice. I know the guy must get a lot of emails so I figured I'd drop a line here.

Thanks.

******Received an email back**********

Figured I'd update this post as well.

Current units have 5 spare analog inputs vs 3 for the old model, 5 spare programmable outputs vs 3, on-board barometric sensor, selectable external MAP sensor, better power supply, better crank/cam circuits, additional wheel speed (hall) input, flex fuel input.


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