What is newest MS version out? What is next release date?
 

I'm looking at buying MS for a turbo build and have heard a newer version will be released; however I'm not sure if it is already available?

Does anyone have a link to info on this? What are the main upgrades/releases over the current version?

Thanks!

Well there are three different MS's, MSI, MSII, and MSIII, which each have very different prices and features, but the versions refer to the development stage of each. What are you asking about? Models or versions?

If its versions, just get the latest. If its models, you're probably fine with MSI, however if you can afford MSII get it, it has better resolution and a few other handy features. MSIII as far as I know isn't terribly useful for us, with lots of 4+ injector drives, SD card datalogging, and more input/outputs thingys. Read about them on diyautotune.com.

Right now, you can't buy the MS3; that leaves you with two options, MS2 and MS1. If you can afford the extra ~$60, get the MS2. If not, get the MS1. Note that if you have an NB, you need the MS2.

Dimitris

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oh hai der!

So, you want me to post my MS1, right next to my MS2, right next to my MS3, right next to my GPIO? :)

Dimitris

I could do that as well minus the GPIO...

But my picture would be (5) MS-Is, (3) MS-IIs, (2) Microsquirts, and the MS-III. Do I win?

You should install that before you break it again :P

Sounds like a plan.

Nope. I have plenty more to add. Currently:

1 MS-1, 2 MS-IIs, 3 DIY-PNPs, 2 Microsquirts, the MS-3, the GPIO, and several Innovate boards (1 DL-32, 1 TC-4, 1 SSI-4, 1 LM-1 in a better case with circular mil-spec connectors) and other custom shit.

A draw at best. :)

Dimitris

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I win for sure.

Does this mean someone is going sequential?

when the MSX board is available i'll go full sequential.

But only after I do it. But this all still comes down to us figuring out why we randomly run on 2 cylinders.

I think a lot of people underestimate the benefits of sequential injection.

It usually won't help power that much, but it can/does help drivability a lot, and often, once you get the injection timing correct it makes fuel and accel enrichment easier to tune.

Also, the MS3 is 2x/4x as fast as the ms2 (50MHz with a 100MHz co-processor that we use to drive all the ignition and injection outputs). Several people have noticed differences in smoothness and drivability even without sequential in areas of the code we didn't change (which leaves only compiler changes and the faster processor to "blame" for the improvements).

Ken

We'll figure that one out. I don't think it's firmware but one way or the other I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of it.

Ken

Every time one of your kitties purr for your victories, I die a little.

:laugh:

Dimitris

Maybe becuase the Megamanual http://www.megamanual.com/MSFAQ.htm#sequential implies that its 'not all that' ;)

I do prefer my car now it's running sequential injection, small opening times makes for a sucky idle.

Hopefully I will get all new grounds ran this weekend. Then see if I still have the problems. Other then that and idle settings being off, the car has been running good with MS3.

i don't think the 2-cyl issue has anything to do with grounds. Mine never did this until I went from MS-III back to MS-II, I have a feeling it's how the cpu is sitting in the socket...but it's completely retarded and not cool.

Whats the word on controlling VVT with MS3? Whats new to the MS3 that allows this possibility? I will soon need to decide between ms2, and ms3.

A complete PCM if you don't currently own MegaSquirt from the diyautotune.com website: $365 for a V3.0 unassembled kit with MS3 daughterboard, and $540 for a complete MS3 V3.57

I assume one retains the majority of the factory wiring (injector harness, TPS, IAC, MAP sensor) and connectors and then adapt the MS computer to it?

I'm doing a 364ci forged LS2 setup with a GT88 T6 turbo and looking into MS or BigStuff3. Pretty much been poking around several websites to gain a better understanding of MS.

Some nice features in MS3 I found:
Two wideband oxygen sensor input (external controller required)
Various boost control systems (gear, time, speed based)
2 step type launch control
Supports external data capture boards (e.g. for external EGT boards)
EGT data support (with external amplifier)
Dual fuel (e.g. LPG) ***you can run E85 and 91 octane for example....***
Individual cylinder injector trim
Injector phase timing
Individual cylinder spark trim

MSII doesn't have enough outputs I think, a member on here is developing a standalone VVT controller that should be out soon.

MSIII VVT control is happening but Ken has said in the past that it's some way off yet. MSIII has lots more outputs/inputs, memory and processing power.

He wants to write code for it, he has told me this.

Ken says he will work on VVT support once 1.0 firmware is out. So sometime late summer I believe. I will hopefully be the test car for it.

up to 8 actually.

Hmm.. I wonder if it will be capable to control the Honda VTC? Would be awesome if it could.

VTC. VCT. VTEC. VVT. VICS. VTCS. VVTL. VVL. VVEL. VCP. VANOS. NVCS. MIVEC. DVVT. DCVCP. S-VT. AVLS.

I swear, the next company that invents any kind of mechanism to vary the geometry / timing / duration / etc. of anything under the hood needs to break ranks and just name the damn thing Steve.

I'm getting tired of all these frakking acronyms.

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That's a cat. Where is the duck?

Dimitris

Fiat's called their variable valve timing setup "Multiair." It's a start.

MultiAir is slightly more than variable valve timing.

You get infinitely - within it's range of movement -variable lift and duration from it, no step change a-la VTEC.

I Like the acronyms, makes me sound clever when I can recite them, the ladies find it irresistable, (in my dreamland!)