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Old 09-09-2007, 03:49 AM   #1
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my HP goal with a TDO5 is 220whp. I am just about done putting it on, I will have 550cc injectors, emu, rail, pump all the stuff. The next is should I run an IC or WI or both. Please give me the run down.
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both.

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thought so. thanks for the input
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I'd start off with an IC. Don't listen to anything Magna has to say on this topic.
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if only one, get the intercooler

if both, add a progressive WI kit
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I'd start off with an IC. Don't listen to anything Magna has to say on this topic.
Thems fighting words dammit WI can get you where you want. On a single stage or normal progressive setup.
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Old 09-09-2007, 02:42 PM   #7
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for 220whp the WI is unnecessary.

in fact i still haven't seen any proof that it is necessary on any stock internal miata.
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A turbo isn't necessary on any stock internal miata either, but I run one anyway.
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you can't make 220whp without a turbo....
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touche good sir.. touche
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for 220whp the WI is unnecessary.

in fact i still haven't seen any proof that it is necessary on any stock internal miata.
Lets see you run 14 psi on a stock internal miata with only a safc. Al you know a thing or two but WI pwns all that is the end of the story.
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ok but since everyone has an MS now, that doesn't really matter.

i just want to see a dyno of before and after, 14psi to 14psi, without WI and with WI.

the only reason I've asked for this a few times is because if it looks like it's worth it, I'd like to add WI over the winter. I know the car feels like it has 25 extra hp in the winter versus summer, so I want to know if WI can make it winter year-round....
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My WI at 5 psi makes the plenum cold to the touch after boosted runs.
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Exactly i would love to do a 14 psi to non WI 14 psi run but you will have to buy me a new motor to go with it after i make that run with no WI I got 17 or so happening now and it is friggin awesome.
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you gotta remember that the WI can get you below ambient thats the trick.
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Exactly i would love to do a 14 psi to non WI 14 psi run but you will have to buy me a new motor to go with it after i make that run with no WI I got 17 or so happening now and it is friggin awesome.
Take a log with MS and see what the map sensor is reading. Curious how much boost you're turning now.
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i tried but i was getting some weird AF readings and did a restart and lost the log i thought i was running Ill shoot you a log in the AM though once i run one.
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I remember this one time I popped my engine because of a faulty nozzle on my IC. Oh wait, there aren't any nozzles on an IC.

My thinking is that adding in that extra bit of complexity better be really worth it. The IC will also make a nice net if my turbo ever ***** the bed

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Jay It's all good, i understand that everyone can't understand my genius.
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makes me wanna add a DO WI to the list...
I'll do a search on Magna since it seems you're the
one getting me into this...
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