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pschmidt 06-01-2009 04:18 PM

Ben, where is my $70?
 
I hate doing this, but I don't know what else to do. I've tried email, bargaining, contacting the site administrator; all to no avail.

Ben, you owe me $70 for the thermostat housing and cover I sent back in September (!) of last year.

I understand things come up in life that are of more importance, and I've been understanding, but now you're blatantly ignoring me. The latest email I sent was last Friday the 29th. You've posted here as recently as the 30th.

Just send me the $70 you owe me. If you need my PayPal address, send me a PM.

zoomin 06-01-2009 04:24 PM

Who is Ben?

supra441979 06-01-2009 04:24 PM

Ben the admin or BenR?

pschmidt 06-01-2009 04:56 PM

Ben the admin.

zoomin 06-01-2009 05:10 PM

Oh wow, this should be interesting! So you sent him the parts trusting he would send you the money AFTER you gave them to him?

1990miata1.6 06-01-2009 05:15 PM

ooo boy there was one of these not too long ago people started to say they were going to go to the guys house and kick his ass

pschmidt 06-01-2009 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by zoomin (Post 414343)
Oh wow, this should be interesting! So you sent him the parts trusting he would send you the money AFTER you gave them to him?


Not exactly. He was supposed to replace the powdercoated parts I sent with non-powdercoated parts. You can check out my trader rating to see that he was satisfied with the deal.

I ended up having to purchase the parts on my own, with the total being $69.90.


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 414347)
ooo boy there was one of these not too long ago people started to say they were going to go to the guys house and kick his ass


That might have been mine as well if you're referring to another user here.

These are the two worst online transactions I have ever had.

zoomin 06-01-2009 05:40 PM

These are resources to use if needed in the event you can't get it resolved soon:

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Internet Fraud

You should also have a local POC(point of contact) for your local investigative offices. Do you have receipts and tracking numbers to prove your claim? Good luck.

1990miata1.6 06-01-2009 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 414355)

That might have been mine as well if you're referring to another user here.

These are the two worst online transactions I have ever had.

it was for a head that turned out to be bad

UrbanSoot 06-01-2009 06:14 PM

ive been waiting for my '00 head from him for about 2 years now :)

BenR 06-01-2009 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by supra441979 (Post 414319)
Ben the admin or BenR?



Not me.

SOL General 06-01-2009 06:41 PM

I have been waiting for a COPS setup for about a year and a half now. I sent him almost 200 dollars and COPS and an Ignition setup, He hasnt responded to me, and im really getting strung up here.

zoomin 06-01-2009 06:52 PM

Hope you guys figure out how to get your money back.

Cspence 06-01-2009 07:27 PM

It sucks that not everyone in this world is honest... I'm surprised its a site admin though, figured they would be the ones trying to uphold an honest community, lead by example right!? Hope it all works out for ya, I've been in your shoes! :sadwavey:

Doppelgänger 06-01-2009 07:32 PM

interesting.....

kotomile 06-01-2009 07:36 PM

Guys, remember we've only heard one side of this story. I won't comment further except to say that I've met Ben, and he seems like a stand-up guy. Let's withhold judgement until the defendant has spoken.

JayL 06-01-2009 07:57 PM

Why do I think this isn't the first time I have heard this about him?

Cspence 06-01-2009 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 414428)
Let's withhold judgement until the defendant has spoken.

This is why I am never contacted for jury duty...In my eyes they are guilty until proven innocent, lol!

olderguy 06-01-2009 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by SOL General (Post 414404)
I have been waiting for a COPS setup for about a year and a half now. I sent him almost 200 dollars and COPS and an Ignition setup, He hasnt responded to me, and im really getting strung up here.

While you are feeling honorable, there is a 10 foot chunk of hose I have been waiting on you to return.

18psi 06-01-2009 08:27 PM

I bought a torsen from him a while ago, and after not receiving it for a long time I contacted him about it. After much confusion it turned out that it was stolen at the post office, and then returned to him weeks later. In the end after about 2 months of trying to figure out wtf is going on, I finally got my torsen and am happy with it:)

Good luck ts.

KPLAFIN 06-01-2009 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by SOL General (Post 414404)
I have been waiting for a COPS setup for about a year and a half now. I sent him almost 200 dollars and COPS and an Ignition setup, He hasnt responded to me, and im really getting strung up here.


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 414390)
ive been waiting for my '00 head from him for about 2 years now :)


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 414316)
I hate doing this, but I don't know what else to do. I've tried email, bargaining, contacting the site administrator; all to no avail.

Ben, you owe me $70 for the thermostat housing and cover I sent back in September (!) of last year.

I understand things come up in life that are of more importance, and I've been understanding, but now you're blatantly ignoring me. The latest email I sent was last Friday the 29th. You've posted here as recently as the 30th.

Just send me the $70 you owe me. If you need my PayPal address, send me a PM.

Ain't irony a bitch?

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p.../Miata/ben.jpg

miatamania 06-01-2009 09:45 PM

I wish more people would use that damn system.

Cspence 06-01-2009 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 414483)
I wish more people would use that damn system.

+ Fucking 1... it really clears things up for people!

DontPassTheFence 06-01-2009 11:05 PM

what is this, CLUBROADSTER DOT NET?

oh fuck yeah, I went there, you gays are as bad as they are sometimes. >:3

1990miata1.6 06-02-2009 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 414428)
Guys, remember we've only heard one side of this story. I won't comment further except to say that I've met Ben, and he seems like a stand-up guy. Let's withhold judgement until the defendant has spoken.

inacent until proven guilty :slap:

1990miata1.6 06-02-2009 02:16 AM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 414437)
This is why I am never contacted for jury duty...In my eyes they are guilty until proven innocent, lol!

i think thats how any one looks at you if you have been accused so really all and all the innocent until proven guilty statement if false they always think your guilty until they have reason to believe your innocent lol got to love the system

18psi 06-02-2009 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 414592)
i think thats how any one looks at you if you have been accused so really all and all the innocent until proven guilty statement if false they always think your guilty until they have reason to believe your innocent lol got to love the system

what

the fuck

are you

trying to say?


http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/...nal-poster.jpg


Seriously, proofread your posts. You sound like a fucking baboon.

Vashthestampede 06-02-2009 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 414593)
what

the fuck

are you

trying to say?


http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/...nal-poster.jpg


Seriously, proofread your posts. You sound like a fucking baboon.

hahahaha :bowrofl:

Halcyon 06-02-2009 03:13 AM

You dont have to put up with this Ben.
Ban everyone!!!

FRT_Fun 06-02-2009 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 414590)
Innocent until proven guilty :slap:

Get Mozilla Firefox, that way you can not only fix your spelling, but learn how to spell in the process.

sixshooter 06-02-2009 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 414599)
Get Mozilla Firefox, that way you can not only fix your spelling, but learn how to spell in the process.

http://madeyoulook.erase-her.net/wp-...alds_abuse.jpg

thymer 06-02-2009 10:20 AM

Great way to lead by example there Ben!

m2cupcar 06-02-2009 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 414316)
I hate doing this...

So how is this workin' for ya? :dunno:

pschmidt 06-02-2009 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 414672)
So how is this workin' for ya? :dunno:

Swimmingly.

How would you suggest this be handled? Keep in mind, this has been going on since September of last year.



Ben Berusch to me
show details Apr 24 Reply



Paypal is fine. I'll take care of it after work.

m2cupcar 06-02-2009 02:32 PM

I just wondered. There was a lot of comments flying around, but nothing from you.

Have you tried the phone?

neogenesis2004 06-02-2009 02:39 PM

Call him at work....

Newbsauce 06-02-2009 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 414721)
I just wondered. There was a lot of comments flying around, but nothing from you.

Have you tried the phone?

Unfortunately he's already said he's going to pay last month, do you think he'll suddenly change his mind if Pat calls him? I'm sure that post above is only one of many reminders. It looks fairly clear even from the post above that Pat has contacted him and Ben acknowledged the need for payment, yet payment still has not been made. I'd be interested to hear Ben's side, however, its hard to tell if he's seen the thread since he has his last login date blocked.

My thoughts are that a forum mod should be one of the few people on the forum you don't exactly have to worry about bad business transactions. Is that unrealistic?

y8s 06-02-2009 04:04 PM

he was last on 5/31 in the evening.

m2cupcar 06-02-2009 04:06 PM

I only suggested the phone because it wasn't mentioned and I've seen email/pm fail. No assumptions on my part.

pschmidt 06-02-2009 04:11 PM

Had I had his number, or knew where he worked, I would have called before posting this. Since I know neither, this is my last resort.

And Brad's right, I have every PM and email promising some form of payment since December. Without looking through all the correspondence, I'd guess he's promised to send parts, pay for shipping on another item as payment, or just flat out reimburse me 8 times now.

I guess this is what I get for trusting another member here and shipping them parts when there was little to no incentive for me to do so, other than wanting someone to have a matching set of powdercoated pieces.

Who knows whether he's seen this thread. The bigger questions is: If he has, does he care?

JayL 06-02-2009 04:33 PM

Doesn't he work at Mazmart or am I thinking of a different Ben?

y8s 06-02-2009 04:39 PM

used to work at mazmart. does not anymore.

cjernigan 06-03-2009 01:50 AM

Can't believe this is still going on.

pschmidt 06-03-2009 09:06 AM

Neither can I.

4 Rings 06-03-2009 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 414596)
You dont have to put up with this Ben.
Ban everyone!!!

Now there is a smart comment. Get banned for getting ripped off, go figure.

pschmidt 06-03-2009 09:40 AM


Ben Berusch to me
show details Mar 6 Reply



freakin sd reader in the computer doesn't feel like working.

What is your shipping address for the head? I can get it out Sunday.


Ben
Oh yeah?

thymer 06-03-2009 09:51 AM

I take it that site admins here don't get involved to help with situations like this?

pschmidt 06-03-2009 10:00 AM

I PM'd Rick several months back, and he apparently asked Ben to make the situation right. However, Rick can't force someone to do something they don't want to do.

Per this post: https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t12098/


The intent of this classifieds section is to provide a relatively safe place for private owners to sell items to private buyers. Of course, Miata Turbo Forum - Discuss how to turbo your Mazda Miata assumes no liability for the outcome of any transaction. Please use due dillegance.
The irony is in the poster of that tidbit of information.

Stein 06-03-2009 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 414992)
I PM'd Rick several months back, and he apparently asked Ben to make the situation right. However, Rick can't force someone to do something they don't want to do.

Per this post: https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t12098/



The irony is in the poster of that tidbit of information.

Maybe not, but he could take away his moderator role and hand it over to someone who is more ethically grounded.

pschmidt 06-04-2009 09:55 AM

Could someone tell me if he's logged in since this was posted?

y8s 06-04-2009 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 414757)
he was last on 5/31 in the evening.


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 415274)
Could someone tell me if he's logged in since this was posted?

I did. on page 2. and verified that is still current.

BenR 06-04-2009 02:15 PM

Can someone local check on him to make sure he isn't in the hospital?

jbresee 06-04-2009 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by BenR (Post 415354)
Can someone local check on him to make sure he isn't in the hospital?

Or locked up for whacking someone... not that this could ever happen to an MT forum member...

gospeed81 06-04-2009 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by BenR (Post 415354)
Can someone local check on him to make sure he isn't in the hospital?




Originally Posted by jbresee (Post 415367)
Or locked up for whacking someone... not that this could ever happen to an MT forum member...



I had both happen in my dealings during build this spring.

samnavy 06-04-2009 04:16 PM

I had 2 business transactions with Ben, in both of which he hooked me up big time... I think both were a little over a year ago. There's always a second side to stories like this, and whatever is happening with him, I hope this is taken care of to the satisfaction of all.

Doppelgänger 06-04-2009 11:46 PM

I'm not getting in on this, but I will say that Ben is not in the hospital or in jail.....

miatamania 06-05-2009 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 414599)
Get Mozilla Firefox, that way you can not only fix your spelling, but learn how to spell in the process.

Google Chrome does it too.


I bought a set of wheels from him in person...straight shooter. Not sure whats up....a little insight would be nice.

Savington 06-05-2009 02:46 AM

Sold a turbo to Ben a while ago. I'm sure there's an explanation for this, but I wouldn't mind hearing it...

pschmidt 06-05-2009 07:29 AM

Yeah, I wouldn't mind hearing it either.

wildfire0310 06-05-2009 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 415600)
I'm not getting in on this, but I will say that Ben is not in the hospital or in jail.....

I agree with Dopple on this and not really going to get involved but it seem like some part of this story doesn't seem right and unfortunately without Ben's side of the story no one can really assume anything. That and it just seems weird cause Ben's always been a stand-up guy and has helped me out many times and even hooked me up plenty of times.


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 415642)
Sold a turbo to Ben a while ago. I'm sure there's an explanation for this, but I wouldn't mind hearing it...

Oh and thanks for selling him that turbo... it made it's way to my car and it a great little turbo...minus the PITA OE turbo drain fitting:laugh:


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