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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 04:06 PM
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Is there an easy place to pick up a 5v reference signal from the Basic MS3 main board to feed it through to one of the unused DB37 pins?

It'd make the wiring for some of the options a lot tidier compared to trying to pull it from the ECU connector loom and back round... I've got an external MAP sensor and a variable resistor for TC / LC adjustment that both are fed from the 5v feed but plumbed into the DB37...

Might be a nice feature for future revisions of your board

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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 04:28 PM
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It's already there? Pin 26.
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gooflophaze
It's already there? Pin 26.
The documentation for my MS3 Basic shows DB37 pin 26 as the FLEX input.
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 04:37 PM
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Ah, sorry, just noticed this was MSLabs subforum so the pin count might be different. But you've got a 5v output coming out to drive the TPS, also known as vref.
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Originally Posted by gooflophaze
Ah, sorry, just noticed this was MSLabs subforum so the pin count might be different. But you've got a 5v output coming out to drive the TPS, also known as vref.
So that I understand what you're saying, the OP can pull the signal from 2I at the ECU connector (in the case of a 2000 NB1) and route it to one of the unused DB37 pins? Otherwise, the signal isn't present at the DB37 connector on the MS3Basic. Just asking because it's what he was originally going to do.
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 05:08 PM
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Yep - I want to pull 5v ref. from somewhere to a spare pin on the MSLabs DB37.

I was just wondering if there's a 'nice' place to source the 5V from (like an unused pad on the main PCB), rather than trying to tack a wire onto the back of the ECU socket..
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Please post your ECU's serial number. Different revisions and MY versions may have slightly different DB37 pinouts.
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Old Mar 18, 2018 | 05:34 AM
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Hi,

ECU Serial number = 12643

Thanks!

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You can get 5V from pin 9 of the serial connector. You can then add a wire from pin 9 to pin 34 on the DB37, which is a free pin on this ECU version (3.0b). Other ECU versions may have this pin already in use.
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Old Mar 18, 2018 | 02:09 PM
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Thanks!

As said maybe something to consider for your future board revisions - makes the wiring a lot tidier
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The current revision does have 5V and a LOT more I/O on the DB37, among other improvements.
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Old Mar 20, 2018 | 07:58 AM
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Hi

Pin 34 on the DB37 is used as it's got an optional ABS sensor speed input.

Also - as it's got an optional internal barometric sensor, what input is this connected to? The basemap you sent doesn't have it enabled...

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Jon

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Old Mar 23, 2018 | 10:25 AM
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My mistake - 34 is free as you say....

Any suggestion as to which ADC the optional internal barometric sensor is connected to?

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