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f1luva92 04-25-2012 10:36 PM

Launch Control Not Working In Gear With Clutch Depressed
 
I just got my MSPNP installed and tuned with the autotune feature on tunerstudio and decided to set up launch control. Well it works fine in neutral with or without the clutch pedal depressed, but as soon as I put it into first with the clutch pedal still depressed it revs freely. I was thinking the clutch switch is bad, but I would assume that would make the car either 1. not start or 2. start without depressing the clutch pedal. Neither of those is happening.

Any ideas?

MD323 04-25-2012 11:12 PM

there are 2 separate switched on the clutch, one for starter inhibition, and one for the ecu. the latter is the one for launch, and should be brown/white.

bypassing it with a jumper should result in launch being "stuck" on if everything else checks out.

f1luva92 04-26-2012 08:34 AM

ahh ok. that makes sense.

Braineack 04-26-2012 09:02 AM

you need to unplug your neutral safety switch from the trans.

f1luva92 04-26-2012 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 870236)
you need to unplug your neutral safety switch from the trans.

they really should have put that in the manual just sayin. Haha. I'll give it a shot after work.

THANKS!

Braineack 04-26-2012 11:03 AM

not eveyrone has it. iirc, it only came on cruise controlled miatas.

f1luva92 04-26-2012 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 870306)
not eveyrone has it. iirc, it only came on cruise controlled miatas.

which mine originally was. makes sense now. i'm getting off work in about an hour so i'll try to do it then. where exactly is it on the trans, i could spend the time finding it, but i'd like to be able to unplug it before i leave here, and go directly to summer duck drag strip

nevermind i found it on mitchell

Braineack 04-26-2012 05:39 PM

towards the middle on the top (shifter area), the white connector.

Oskinosmee 04-30-2012 04:41 PM

Hows it run with the autotune?

f1luva92 04-30-2012 04:50 PM

it runs pretty good. i'm still tracking down a massive boost leak, so i'm hardly building any boost. So i guess you could say i'm not a good judge right now.

and by the way. the reason LC wasnt working in gear is because the spring in the clutch switch was broken. so i replaced it with a click-pen spring. works just fine now.

Braineack 04-30-2012 05:59 PM

ha great.

ThunderFox 05-02-2012 01:23 PM

Well, I'm having an odd but similar problem... My launch control is on at all times, when activated on the ECU.

I was tuning it with autotune before, so this never happened, but today while cruising I noticed the car won't rev past 2500RPM, and ignition retards to 5º. That's the launch control being active. If I disable it, the car revs just fine.

Should the launch control not work, or do I have to check if my clutch switch is broken? Should the circuit be closed or open, for launch control to be enabled?

Braineack 05-02-2012 01:56 PM

do you have a vTPS? since you have a 91, I'm assuming no.

if you watch your throttle input gauge, youll notice it's constantly increasing to 100% i bet.

you need to make sure your throttle % threshold is set really really really high, in fact I wouldn't use launch control without a vTPS.

ThunderFox 05-02-2012 02:02 PM

I disabled it for the time being. It serves no purpose to me. My only worry is that I might have a bad clutch switch!

Braineack 05-02-2012 02:06 PM

or you havent unhooked your neutral saftey switch. car had/has cruise control?

ThunderFox 05-02-2012 02:08 PM

Nope, no cruise. And it doesn't have that other switch that miatas seem to have either, which prevents them from starting with the clutch depressed.

Braineack 05-02-2012 02:10 PM

thats the starter interlock switch which is different.

pdexta 05-02-2012 04:31 PM

Is removal of the neutral safety switch and setting up the software all you have to do to get launch control working one of Brain's MSPNPs? I was under the impression you had to actually wire the clutch switch up and I couldn't ever figure it out.

f1luva92 05-04-2012 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 872822)
do you have a vTPS? since you have a 91, I'm assuming no.

if you watch your throttle input gauge, youll notice it's constantly increasing to 100% i bet.

you need to make sure your throttle % threshold is set really really really high, in fact I wouldn't use launch control without a vTPS.

i'm glad you mentioned that because i got curious and looked at my throttle input gauge... it doesnt change. :doh:

ThunderFox 05-04-2012 08:23 AM

You should know though... Didn't you have to disconnect your TPS?


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