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ericsbestshot 01-29-2020 08:46 PM

I'll try again tomorrow and log it as a .msl. Are .msl files able to be loaded to miataturbo.net? And what perimeters would you like me to have logged?

I can't help but think there is a lot of power still on the table. I think i'm a little rich and not enough timing. And of course about 4 more psi of boost would help.

Chiburbian 01-29-2020 08:50 PM

Are you SD card datalogging? If you are using tunerstudio to datalog, it will log ALL the data unless I am mistaken. I only ever have to pick and choose when logging to SD card.

Also, you have a forged rod motor with good pistons and pump gas compression. I wouldn't stress about that motor.

Your turbo however might be choking your potential.

ericsbestshot 01-29-2020 08:56 PM

there is a default function that will log everything and or you can tell it to only log certain data points.

Not using a SD card, just telling tunerstudio to start and stop logging.

Chiburbian 01-29-2020 09:10 PM

"Data Log Profile Editor?"
I never even noticed that option.

Just log them all if you can. If not, I will make a list tomorrow.

ericsbestshot 01-29-2020 10:41 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ab79def067.png
basemap from megasquirt website
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c21169a499.png
spark map from tuner

ericsbestshot 01-29-2020 11:08 PM

i posted the above cause i thought it was curious what is on the base map for 99-00 miatas and comparing to the map after the tuner messed with it.

Ted75zcar 01-29-2020 11:30 PM

Did you do a timing belt? What is the idle vac and at what RPM? That looks suspiciously like a mistimed intake cam to me.

ericsbestshot 01-29-2020 11:41 PM

i haven't done the timing belt since i built the motor a few years ago. Not saying its not possible. i idle at about 900rpm and if i remember correctly at about 35kpa. I can double check this tomorrow.

LeoNA 01-30-2020 04:13 PM

This is from my 9:1 BP4W FM1 on a shimmed wastegate at 8.5psi. I was running about 1-2 degrees more timing then you and an AFR 0f 12:1 in the 150KPA row.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d9db32129f.png

ericsbestshot 01-30-2020 11:08 PM

2 Attachment(s)
since we can now upload MLG files

ericsbestshot 02-14-2020 11:24 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b42ace3534.jpg

I'm thinking my cam gears are off by 1 tooth each. What do ya'll think. Marks on the pulley line up with the "T" on the belt cover and matches up to where my extension stops going up.

All I can think is that if it is off by a tooth. It runs and idle remarkably well.

btw, sorry I couldn't get back to this sooner. I had to get surgery on my wrist which has prevented much wrenching.

der_vierte 02-15-2020 05:35 AM

Intake cam is 1 tooth off, exhaust cam looks good

ericsbestshot 02-15-2020 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by der_vierte (Post 1562168)
Intake cam is 1 tooth off, exhaust cam looks good

Correct be if I'm wrong but I count 19 teeth between the gears. And moving the intake cam one tooth would throw this off.

ericsbestshot 02-15-2020 02:41 PM

So, i believe i got my issue figured out. I'm like 95% positive that the timing is off by exactly 10%. I starting tearing down the front of the engine to double check where my crank was sitting. I'm using the keyway instead of the half moon on the gear cause i don't want to pry the damper off. It seems that the timing marks on the supermiata damper are a little strange and one mark sits on the "T" and one is off the scale. I used this thread for reference https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...ry-here-89510/.


ericsbestshot 02-15-2020 02:55 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2f795269e4.jpg
Keyway straight up
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...13e5b50416.jpg
Marks being off.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9b6e7a91ea.jpg
Cams at actual TDC.

DNMakinson 02-15-2020 04:01 PM

I do not think you see what you think you see. They look the same as the white and orange marks in the thread you resurrected.l, where Curly said good to go.

DNM

ericsbestshot 02-15-2020 04:22 PM

Well, when i moved the crank over to the spot where Curly said got to go, My cams go out of alignment.

LeoNA 02-15-2020 10:15 PM

Both cam sprockets look one cam sprocket tooth advanced to me. That would hurt your higher rpm performance, but would idle good.

EricBrute 03-20-2020 09:28 PM

The Cam gears are off for sure. The marks should point almost vertical, and the #1 cylinder cam lobes should point outwards.

ericsbestshot 03-20-2020 10:49 PM

Little update.
with the timing correct went to the dyno and actually pit down some reasonable numbers. 220hp and 229 ft/lb at 14-15psi. Sorry for the lack of the dyno chart. But the shop lost it somehow.


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