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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 08:46 PM
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I'll try again tomorrow and log it as a .msl. Are .msl files able to be loaded to miataturbo.net? And what perimeters would you like me to have logged?

I can't help but think there is a lot of power still on the table. I think i'm a little rich and not enough timing. And of course about 4 more psi of boost would help.
Old Jan 29, 2020 | 08:50 PM
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Are you SD card datalogging? If you are using tunerstudio to datalog, it will log ALL the data unless I am mistaken. I only ever have to pick and choose when logging to SD card.

Also, you have a forged rod motor with good pistons and pump gas compression. I wouldn't stress about that motor.

Your turbo however might be choking your potential.
Old Jan 29, 2020 | 08:56 PM
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there is a default function that will log everything and or you can tell it to only log certain data points.

Not using a SD card, just telling tunerstudio to start and stop logging.
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"Data Log Profile Editor?"
I never even noticed that option.

Just log them all if you can. If not, I will make a list tomorrow.
Old Jan 29, 2020 | 10:41 PM
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basemap from megasquirt website

spark map from tuner
Old Jan 29, 2020 | 11:08 PM
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i posted the above cause i thought it was curious what is on the base map for 99-00 miatas and comparing to the map after the tuner messed with it.
Old Jan 29, 2020 | 11:30 PM
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Did you do a timing belt? What is the idle vac and at what RPM? That looks suspiciously like a mistimed intake cam to me.
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i haven't done the timing belt since i built the motor a few years ago. Not saying its not possible. i idle at about 900rpm and if i remember correctly at about 35kpa. I can double check this tomorrow.
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This is from my 9:1 BP4W FM1 on a shimmed wastegate at 8.5psi. I was running about 1-2 degrees more timing then you and an AFR 0f 12:1 in the 150KPA row.

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since we can now upload MLG files
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2020-01-29_19.15.20.mlg (8.3 KB, 39 views)
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I'm thinking my cam gears are off by 1 tooth each. What do ya'll think. Marks on the pulley line up with the "T" on the belt cover and matches up to where my extension stops going up.

All I can think is that if it is off by a tooth. It runs and idle remarkably well.

btw, sorry I couldn't get back to this sooner. I had to get surgery on my wrist which has prevented much wrenching.
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Intake cam is 1 tooth off, exhaust cam looks good
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Intake cam is 1 tooth off, exhaust cam looks good
Correct be if I'm wrong but I count 19 teeth between the gears. And moving the intake cam one tooth would throw this off.
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So, i believe i got my issue figured out. I'm like 95% positive that the timing is off by exactly 10%. I starting tearing down the front of the engine to double check where my crank was sitting. I'm using the keyway instead of the half moon on the gear cause i don't want to pry the damper off. It seems that the timing marks on the supermiata damper are a little strange and one mark sits on the "T" and one is off the scale. I used this thread for reference https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...ry-here-89510/.

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Keyway straight up

Marks being off.

Cams at actual TDC.
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I do not think you see what you think you see. They look the same as the white and orange marks in the thread you resurrected.l, where Curly said good to go.

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Well, when i moved the crank over to the spot where Curly said got to go, My cams go out of alignment.
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Both cam sprockets look one cam sprocket tooth advanced to me. That would hurt your higher rpm performance, but would idle good.

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The Cam gears are off for sure. The marks should point almost vertical, and the #1 cylinder cam lobes should point outwards.
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Little update.
with the timing correct went to the dyno and actually pit down some reasonable numbers. 220hp and 229 ft/lb at 14-15psi. Sorry for the lack of the dyno chart. But the shop lost it somehow.



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