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mweba1 07-21-2016 07:56 PM

Bell kit
 
Quick one for you guys. Am I missing something? Cross over tube does not line up. Man, hope I'm just an idiot....
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...149ccd485f.jpg

18psi 07-21-2016 08:58 PM

that's bell precision for ya lol

aidandj 07-21-2016 08:59 PM

You forgot the intercooler.

18psi 07-21-2016 09:04 PM

and having tuned this same kit on a 93 a couple weeks ago, let me tell you: you need an intercooler.

not optional. despite what lies they will tell you

mweba1 07-21-2016 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1348116)
and having tuned this same kit on a 93 a couple weeks ago, let me tell you: you need an intercooler.

not optional. despite what lies they will tell you

Have that all setup. Is this normal for them? Waited two months and nine days for this.....

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...bdabe91de0.jpg

18psi 07-21-2016 09:12 PM

My guess would be that in the last 5 years, 9 out of every 10 people that ordered from bell:
1) didn't get parts on time
2) parts didn't fit
3) parts were wrong altogether
4) combination of above 3

It's really sad.

mgeoffriau 07-21-2016 09:15 PM

Dude, have a margarita and chill. Stephanie is getting it sorted out.

18psi 07-21-2016 09:17 PM

:laugh:

"it will be in the mail tomorrow"

mweba1 07-21-2016 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1348120)
My guess would be that in the last 5 years, 9 out of every 10 people that ordered from bell:
1) didn't get parts on time
2) parts didn't fit
3) parts were wrong altogether
4) combination of above 3

It's really sad.

Well, good to know now. Yeah kit didn't ship complete. Appears that the kit I got would have never worked as designed. Ugh. On the bright side, my turbo finally showed up today...


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...795a3f3589.jpg


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...aa7fecf337.jpg

astral 07-22-2016 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1348120)
My guess would be that in the last 5 years, 9 out of every 10 people that ordered from bell:
1) didn't get parts on time
2) parts didn't fit
3) parts were wrong altogether
4) combination of above 3

It's really sad.

I have heard this same exact experience echoed from everyone I know of who ordered from Bell Engineering. This thread says it all. That shit ain't cool. Can't believe people still send business their way.

^^ And what's going on with that turbo flange? Just the photo or is that damage?


mweba1 07-22-2016 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by astral (Post 1348171)
I have heard this same exact experience echoed from everyone I know of who ordered from Bell Engineering. This thread says it all. That shit ain't cool. Can't believe people still send business their way.

^^ And what's going on with that turbo flange? Just the photo or is that damage?

Boxed with no packaging. Flange bent, actuator mount bent and waste gate arm bent. I got the "It's shipping" run and when it showed...this is what I got. Basically, the kit is not functional. Heck the FMU bracket doesn't even fit the FMU.

I had no idea... Figured when I started this thread someone would say "Turn the damn tube around, idiot" Apparently, it's just a kit quality issue.

sixshooter 07-22-2016 08:27 AM

Bell kit
 
I'm baffled how they have been able to remain in business. You would think people would stop making excuses for them at some point and the business would dry up.

Someone explain and justify how BEGi is a better kit supplier than Tacotaco or CXRacing? I've heard their parts show up on time and actually fit. And they do it for less money.

mweba1 07-22-2016 08:48 AM

The manifold and down pipe are perfect, that's about it. Basically you'll wait two months+ for a kit that does not function without major mods. Talking to my machinist today to see where I'm at on this deal.

Girz0r 07-22-2016 08:57 AM

Side note, your radiator is really brown and may be a ticking time bomb. :yippee:

pdexta 07-22-2016 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1348192)
I'm baffled how they have been able to remain in business. You would think people would stop making excuses for them at some point and the business would dry up.

Someone explain and justify how BEGi is a better kit supplier than Tacotaco or CXRacing? I've heard their parts show up on time and actually fit. And they do it for less money.

BEGI's cast manifold is awesome. I've had mine about 10 years, it has to be close to 100k miles. It fits perfect, has handled HP pretty deep into the 300's, fits an awesome range (price and power) of turbos for our cars, and I've never had an issue with it. I don't think there's another manifold that hits the "fast, reliable, cheap" categories like it does. It's like the whole company survives off building shoddy parts to bolt to their one really good part.

18psi 07-22-2016 09:04 AM

FM manifold is about the same. And costs about the same. TSE manifold looks lightyears better and (hopefully) should hold up just as well.

They used to be a great company. Up until a few years ago. Now they are absolutely terrible. It's really sad.

Braineack 07-22-2016 09:09 AM

is the end of the TB pipe pressed right up against the TB? There should be no gap.

pdexta 07-22-2016 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1348199)
They used to be a great company. Up until a few years ago. Now they are absolutely terrible. It's really sad.

I'm pretty sure I made this identical thread in 2007 and got the same feedback.

mweba1 07-22-2016 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1348201)
is the end of the TB pipe pressed right up against the TB? There should be no gap.

Yes sir, touching it. Also the turbo outlet pipe has no radius to it so my hood is several inches from shutting. TO pipe is all wrong.

18psi 07-22-2016 09:34 AM

you can throw both in the trash where they belong and make a front mount intercooler setup with alum pipes and a proper alum air/air intercooler and be cool like the rest of us


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