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astral 07-25-2016 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by mweba1 (Post 1348836)
Unfortunately, that does not take care of the turbo outlet tube clearing the hood, FMU leaking fuel at the seams at 45psi, FMU bracket does not fit FMU or turbo being bent to chit.



After tallying it all up, only pieces I could use out of the box are: hoses, fittings, fuel pressure gauge,boost pressure gauge, intake inlet tube, filter, couple brackets, manifold and the drill / tap.

So deep into this, ordering a MS plug and play, injectors and other little bits. Going to take my machinist a bit to fix all this anyway.

Have you brought this up to Bell and asked for a refund?

Oh4One4 07-25-2016 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by astral (Post 1348962)
Have you brought this up to Bell and asked for a refund?

HA!

Yeah... Try that. Three messed up pieces later, I had to force a charge back on my card.

Mazdaspeeder 07-26-2016 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by astral (Post 1348962)
Have you brought this up to Bell and asked for a refund?

Come on man, it's all clearly the installer's fault. Maybe the parts got damaged in transit. Somehow that ALWAYS happens to BEGi. Either they have Ace Ventura delivering their packages, or they only sell to imbeciles who can't install anything.

Now that I've expelled my share of sarcasm, I can tell you the following: Dont count on good customer service. At least don't count on it from BEGi. See, I couldn't even put those two in the same sentence.

astral 07-26-2016 03:56 PM

I hate BEGi the more I hear about them. My shop's owner bought an alpha omega kit. Took them ONE YEAR to ship it to him. Yup, that's right. All the while giving him the run around. "It's going out later this month" "it's going out this week" "it's going out tomorrow (x15)"

I wonder how Corky feels about his business being run like this, surely he wouldn't be pleased. As a small business, their customers are their bread and butter, so if they continue down this path, I'm not sure the market will allow them to stay as other competitors (Trackspeed Engineering) are coming onto the scene.

stratosteve 07-26-2016 04:54 PM

Geez, like you guys have never made a mistake at work?

dleavitt 07-26-2016 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by stratosteve (Post 1349143)
Geez, like you guys have never made a mistake at work?

The same mistakes?

Over and over?

For a decade?

99mx5 07-26-2016 05:33 PM

There is a reason why the DIY Turbo Discussion sub-forum is here.

stratosteve 07-26-2016 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by dleavitt (Post 1349152)
The same mistakes?

Over and over?

For a decade?

Ruins the joke if I explain it.

mweba1 07-26-2016 10:42 PM

Anyone running a gasket between turbo and down pipe? They tell me its machined fit but I have a substantial leak on top. Believe it's throwing my AFR readings off.

Also, the FMU leaks fuel at the seams around 45-50psi.
Appears they are the only source for rebuild kit. Thanks in advance.

Girz0r 07-26-2016 10:51 PM

Is your downpipe in 2 pieces? You 'can' run a metal gasket but usually not used. I'd bolt the upper to the housing as snug as possible then slip in the bottom. Or if you're able too, just do the upper piece alone to see if it seals without the rest of the exhaust attached.

mweba1 07-26-2016 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1349232)
Is your downpipe in 2 pieces? You 'can' run a metal gasket but usually not used. I'd bolt the upper to the housing as snug as possible then slip in the bottom. Or if you're able too, just do the upper piece alone to see if it seals without the rest of the exhaust attached.

Upper was torqued first. It seals perfectly bottom and both sides. Can slide a piece of paper between on top center. Appears to be warped. I'll look up a gasket. Thanks

borka 07-27-2016 10:27 PM

I am amazed how calm you are with so many major issues; i personally would be furious, especially about the damaged turbo, garbage FMU, and warped DP flange.

with so many issues, i would honestly open a chargeback for the following reasons:
"Not as described items"
"defective items"
"damaged items"

These are the code words credit card disputes use. so tell them these reasons when calling.
Credit card disputes always side on the customers side, 99% chance you will get a full refund.

At the prices they charge the product needs to be issues free and correctly fitting. no excuses.

i say charge it back, send this shit back, and order the FM no electronics kit for probably about the same price, and it should ship much faster, come with an intercooler and actually fit.

codrus 07-27-2016 11:56 PM

+1 on return/chargeback and ordering from FM instead. They'll have in stock, ship quickly, and it will fit perfectly.

--Ian

mweba1 07-28-2016 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1349648)
+1 on return/chargeback and ordering from FM instead. They'll have in stock, ship quickly, and it will fit perfectly.

--Ian

I'm almost to that point although I've fixed most of the issues and trying to tune the car. To the point I just laugh when I find another inferior part.




Current situation. 255lphHP fuel pump, new filter, light green top injectors(all new seals), and BEGI FMU (managed to get it to stop leaking). Best I can get the AFR down to is 14's at 6-7 psi. That is running 90-100psi fuel pressure. Runs a solid 14.2-14.9 at idle with 02 sensor plugged in, 10.1 with it unplugged. Iv'e read, read some more and can't find an idea of what is keeping my WOT AFR so high.

borka 07-28-2016 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by mweba1 (Post 1349797)
I'm almost to that point although I've fixed most of the issues and trying to tune the car. To the point I just laugh when I find another inferior part.




Current situation. 255lphHP fuel pump, new filter, light green top injectors(all new seals), and BEGI FMU (managed to get it to stop leaking). Best I can get the AFR down to is 14's at 6-7 psi. That is running 90-100psi fuel pressure. Runs a solid 14.2-14.9 at idle with 02 sensor plugged in, 10.1 with it unplugged. Iv'e read, read some more and can't find an idea of what is keeping my WOT AFR so high.

dont you need some o2 clamp that fools the ecu into closed loop as soon as there is boost?

mweba1 07-28-2016 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by borka (Post 1349799)
dont you need some o2 clamp that fools the ecu into closed loop as soon as there is boost?

My understanding, this aids in the transfer into boost but does not effect AFR in boost. Either way, I interuppted the 02 signal and it made no difference.

borka 07-28-2016 01:48 PM

did you also floor the gas pedal? my understanding is you need to floor it for the ecu to go into closed loop, otherwise it tries to keep afr at 14.7

mweba1 07-28-2016 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by borka (Post 1349814)
did you also floor the gas pedal? my understanding is you need to floor it for the ecu to go into closed loop, otherwise it tries to keep afr at 14.7

Yes I've tried that and everything in between.

mweba1 07-28-2016 03:07 PM

Starting over, checking absolutely everything on kit. Waste gate arm was on by three threads and set at 2.46mm preload. Seamed quite tight but I have minimal experience.

I'm pretty sure the waste gate is hanging on the down pipe though.....


turbofan 07-28-2016 04:53 PM

send it back

send it back

send it back

send it back

Back where it caaaaame frooooooommmmmm


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