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miatasteve1206 11-09-2013 05:43 PM

best turbo kit for price
 
im looking for a good turbo kit or thinking of fabricating my own just wanna hear opinions of everyone

fooger03 11-09-2013 06:01 PM

JDM's 94 02 Miata MX5 1 8L T25 T28 Turbo Kit 275HP | eBay

Don't skimp. If you're not paying at least a grand for everything, you're not doing it right.

miatasteve1206 11-09-2013 06:17 PM

i have a 2400$ budget just wanna see what everyone thinks i should do i plan on ordering everything and installing it over winter while the cars in the garage

miatasteve1206 11-09-2013 06:18 PM

i dont feel comfortable with ebay stuff but thanks for the suggestion

dieselmiata 11-09-2013 07:10 PM

The ebay kit is fine for your goals. You could spend hours reading threads on this site about diy kits and I'd wager you'll come to the same conclusion. Just buy the above linked kit and turn up the boost! :party:

Savington 11-09-2013 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by miatasteve1206 (Post 1071700)
i dont feel comfortable with ebay stuff but thanks for the suggestion

Smart noob is smart.

dieselmiata 11-09-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1071712)
Smart noob is smart.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384043831


I present THIS!

Originally Posted by miatasteve1206 (Post 1071691)
im looking for a good turbo kit or thinking of fabricating my own just wanna hear opinions of everyone

As evidence to the contrary!

Boris 11-09-2013 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by miatasteve1206 (Post 1071700)
i dont feel comfortable with ebay stuff but thanks for the suggestion

You obviously didn't read the "275HP +" part.
That's nothing to sneeze at, you know.








:party:

Ryan_G 11-09-2013 08:14 PM

Before this thread derails I am going to throw you a bone. Your question was way too vague and shows a complete lack of effort on your part to research. You would get much better responses if you told us

a bit about the car
your goals for it
your budget (which you initially left out)
your experience with modifying cars
some ideas you have already thought about (this shows that you have done some research) and just want to narrow down.

Otherwise this thread will turn into a shit show and will probably end up with you getting banned or just never coming back on your own.

FRT_Fun 11-09-2013 08:51 PM

^ LOL NOob get out of here. Only 1347 post count you obviously don't know shit.

Seriously the ebay kit is tried and true. Every one knows how good they are. Ever wonder how these ebay turbo kit sellers stay in business? It's by selling a ton of these kits! Browse the build threads and see just how many people on this forum have them!

But seriously Ryan_G is right. Please be less vague when posting. It will help us tremendously in helping you.

thirdgen 11-09-2013 09:28 PM

I'd only buy an eBay kit from the member ILoveTacoTaco. Biggest power and most dependable turbo kit ever.

miatasteve1206 11-10-2013 02:46 PM

i have a 94 miata 1.8 stock only have straight pipe exhaust im only looking for about 250 to the wheels. i have some experience modifying cars but my friend is a master tech at ford and said he would help. i was looking into getting an arttech manifold and getting a second hand gt28 with a custom downpipe and exhaust. id run megasquirt or if i can find a cheap haltech id run that. also i need to find injectors but my friend has rx7 injectors i might use.

miatasteve1206 11-10-2013 02:47 PM

ebay just doesnt scream reliability to me

supercooper 11-10-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by miatasteve1206 (Post 1071862)
ebay just doesnt scream reliability to me

Why Not???? O.o lol

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384116197

sixshooter 11-10-2013 08:25 PM

Is this your "Meet and Greet" post?

miatasteve1206 11-10-2013 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1071964)
Is this your "Meet and Greet" post?

i guess it is because no one has really givin me any real help other than the few that said i was right not to get an ebay kit.

pdexta 11-11-2013 08:47 AM

When you're talking about a basic turbo kit there are 2 options: flyin miata and bell engineering, there are probably thousands of threads recommending those 2 and there are no other bolton kits that come close to comparing for price/quality/reliability. Each manufacturer offers a wide selection of largely upgradeable and customizable kits.

If you don't necessarily need a full off the shelf, bolton kit. Artech does great hotside parts (turbo/downpipe) if you want to piece together the rest of the kit yourself. Or you can collect parts from the for sale section, which are most likely going to be pieces of FM/BEGI kits that other people upgraded, you can save a good bit of money doing that.

Harv 11-11-2013 09:54 AM

Prefab kit for $2400 you aren't gonna really get much. The FM kit without an ECU and injectors is $3000, but you need an ECU and injectors obviously and you don't have those.

You'll need to build it yourself. As already indicated there are a lot of parts for sale cheap on here.

Leafy 11-11-2013 11:55 AM

2400 is going to be tough for a pre-fab kit. I think you could get the begi kit with the chinese turbo and no intercooler with a mega squirt for that money almost.

Screaming04 11-11-2013 06:47 PM

We're not sure, nobody has ever asked this question before.

nitrodann 11-11-2013 06:52 PM

Lol, I have a huge thread showing how to do it successfully for 2000 dollars, and over there I get raped for pages about how it's easy and why am I even showing people, now here people say that 2400 is really difficult.

Lul.

Dann

Ryan_G 11-12-2013 10:12 AM

They said it would be difficult with a prefab kit.

Harv 11-12-2013 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1072483)
They said it would be difficult with a prefab kit.

Lul.

Dann

mlev 11-19-2013 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1071695)
JDM's 94 02 Miata MX5 1 8L T25 T28 Turbo Kit 275HP | eBay

Don't skimp. If you're not paying at least a grand for everything, you're not doing it right.

I'll bite. I was planning to get the FM Voodoo II kit, but this price tag looks much more appealing.

What "additional parts" are needed here? How is fuel management taken care of?

EDIT: I have a 99 Miata that is currently built for STR in autox (shocks and springs, IHE) I'm really just looking for some extra "oomph", i think the 180wph advertised by FM in their Voodoo kit sounds just fine to me--i'd like reliability over massive power. I do DD this miata quite often in the summer.

Tekel 11-19-2013 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by mlev (Post 1074871)
I'll bite. I was planning to get the FM Voodoo II kit, but this price tag looks much more appealing.

What "additional parts" are needed here? How is fuel management taken care of?

You caught one!
http://i2.wp.com/drowningworms.com/w...size=270%2C150


Here ya go mlev, read this. All 12 pages.

Also, make a intro thread and READ. There is tons of information on this site and no one will answer questions like the one OP asked with a legitimate answer. Read, comprehend, and ask educated questions with details. Not, "I r like b00st, my snatches want that woosh, iz ebay awesum"

Leafy 11-19-2013 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by mlev (Post 1074871)
I'll bite. I was planning to get the FM Voodoo II kit, but this price tag looks much more appealing.

What "additional parts" are needed here? How is fuel management taken care of?

EDIT: I have a 99 Miata that is currently built for STR in autox (shocks and springs, IHE) I'm really just looking for some extra "oomph", i think the 180wph advertised by FM in their Voodoo kit sounds just fine to me--i'd like reliability over massive power. I do DD this miata quite often in the summer.

Nope, nothing extra. Just bolt it all in and fill up with 93 and its good to make 275hp reliably on the stock block. No problem at all.

mlev 11-19-2013 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1074874)
Nope, nothing extra. Just bolt it all in and fill up with 93 and its good to make 275hp block. No problem at all.

Not sure if serious. O.o

Thanks for the thread, I'll read up on it. I've been doing my research and had pretty much settled on the voodoo ii, but this looks like a good option.

I've done intake work, exhaust work, helped swap a diff, installed a rollbar.. I figured I can handle the install just fine, I just don't know anything about tuning- - which is why the voodoo kit was appealing. I do have friends with tuning experience tho.

Savington 11-19-2013 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by mlev (Post 1074877)
Not sure if serious. O.o

Thanks for the thread, I'll read up on it. I've been doing my research and had pretty much settled on the voodoo ii, but this looks like a good option.

I've done intake work, exhaust work, helped swap a diff, installed a rollbar.. I figured I can handle the install just fine, I just don't know anything about tuning- - which is why the voodoo kit was appealing. I do have friends with tuning experience tho.

You're being trolled. The eBay kit is a horrible option, and the members here openly ridicule people who are stupid enough to waste money on it. In fact, because its downfalls are discussed here so regularly, they openly ridicule people who even ask whether it's any good or not.

Trust your initial research. Buy quality new/used parts or order from a bespoke supplier (ARTech or similar).

mlev 11-19-2013 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1075041)
You're being trolled. The eBay kit is a horrible option, and the members here openly ridicule people who are stupid enough to waste money on it. Trust your initial research.

Thanks. From looking at it, it seems the only thing it's really missing is engine management, which as I said is where I'm most ignorant, so I wasn't really sure. Also oil return line? But that should be easy enough..

Anyways its just hard because I know that the FM kit is a great choice, but I also know that you can put together decent stuff by getting parts not as a "pre-made kit". I did my projector retrofit for less than half that a buddy paid, and mine looks and works better. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me that there's a workable kit out there for roughly half the FM stuff..

But yes, I think I'll just stick with voodoo ii.

Tekel 11-19-2013 11:41 PM

It's not what it's missing. It's the fact the parts are made out of used aluminum foil and chewing gum.

mlev 11-19-2013 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by Tekel (Post 1075046)
It's not what it's missing. It's the fact the parts are made out of used aluminum foil and chewing gum.

So what you're saying is it's very light weight??

Besides, if the manifold falls off, that's just weight reduction!

Full_Tilt_Boogie 11-19-2013 11:47 PM

Fuck voodoo, you need real engine management.

Step 1, get your car running on a megasquirt. Then you can start figuring out how to turbo it.

sixshooter 11-20-2013 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1075050)
Fuck voodoo, you need real engine management.

Step 1, get your car running on a megasquirt. Then you can start figuring out how to turbo it.

+1 ^That is where to start.

Harv 11-20-2013 10:24 AM

Yes, and make sure to get a wideband with the Megasquirt.

paulgt2164 11-20-2013 03:29 PM

I had a Voodoo II FM kit a while back, very high quality and the support was great. Was on a 99 10th.

I would avoid the e-bay kits like the plague - I have seen so much b.s. involving those. Whatever savings you get, you will blow in replacing parts or things needed to make it work/fit properly.

Paul Hutt 11-29-2013 12:53 AM

Analysis of Ebay JDM
 
Found this at M.net provided by former moderator of Turbo forum

Ebay Turbozzz yes or no? - MX-5 Miata Forum

locomonkeyboricua 11-29-2013 11:14 PM

if your on a budget and want a great high quaility kit look at the used miata parts for sale on here. i got 2 great kits for sale now and both can do 300whp all day. one is HKS/ Garrett and the other is artech/garrett. anyone here would say those are both great kits and better starting point then ebay or a new kit with less bang for the buck. there are other kits for sale used that would be a great start here on the sale threads just search. i spent 5 k plus when i bought my first fm2 kit. and it was great and still runs strong. but i wish i would have spent less and got a better kit used and had extra $$$ for upgrade clutch and better ecu like mega squirt or rev/ brian built units. dont wate your money on ebay turbo. the only thing you can buy on ebay is intercooler and pipes , some times a race radiator , but thats it.

93lejosh 09-09-2014 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1071695)
JDM's 94 02 Miata MX5 1 8L T25 T28 Turbo Kit 275HP | eBay

Don't skimp. If you're not paying at least a grand for everything, you're not doing it right.

Is this kit available for a 1.6? And as far as engine management is concerned. What other decent affordable options are their? I hear mega squirt uses a very outdated motherboard configuration and kinda made cheap. I mean for 700 PNP is should be some good materials. Opinions?

My Miata is a le with some low miles with all the comfort stuff like ac/cruise. I don't think it plays a factor from what I have read and heard.

sixshooter 09-09-2014 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by 93lejosh (Post 1165369)
Is this kit available for a 1.6?

I'm sure it is.

Originally Posted by 93lejosh (Post 1165369)
And as far as engine management is concerned. What other decent affordable options are their? I hear mega squirt uses a very outdated motherboard configuration and kinda made cheap.

That's what you heard, huh? That's like saying you wouldn't ever buy a new Ford because the Model T is a little outdated.

Originally Posted by 93lejosh (Post 1165369)
I mean for 700 PNP is should be some good materials. Opinions?

Yes, I have a few opinions. I'll be nice and just share one of them. Please research before buying anything. It's amazing what you might learn.

Start here:
https://www.miataturbo.net/ms-labs-m...ms-labs-69930/

MS Labs ECU Comparison Sheet

MatosMiata 09-10-2014 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by 93lejosh (Post 1165369)
Is this kit available for a 1.6? And as far as engine management is concerned. What other decent affordable options are their? I hear mega squirt uses a very outdated motherboard configuration and kinda made cheap. I mean for 700 PNP is should be some good materials. Opinions?

My Miata is a le with some low miles with all the comfort stuff like ac/cruise. I don't think it plays a factor from what I have read and heard.

Not sure if trolling... If serious: Did you read this thread at all before posting? Go back and read through it. The ebay kits are crap. Megasquirt is used on most of the turbo builds on this forum for a good reason- it works.


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