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thenuge26 02-07-2013 06:46 PM

I would take an MSM over a kit installed by someone I don't know and tuned by someone I don't know.

Keith@FM 02-07-2013 07:01 PM

FYI, we charge 20 hours to install and set up an FM II, including some fine-tuning on the road. Find out what your favorite shop will charge per hour and there's your answer. The car will be ready to drive home across the country when we're done.

turbofan 02-07-2013 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 976500)
Yes, because the MSM is an AWESOME turbo setup, and I've heard NO complaints about it.

It's a shame you're not in the NW area. I'd love to install a turbo kit and get paid for it.

Tis all about context, captain slow. Let's check the boxes:

1. he's a klutz.
2. he only wants about 150 whp.
3. he's a klutz.

SOLUTION:

1. Buy MSM.
2. Exhaust, intake, tune.
3. ????
4. Profit, albeit kinda slowly but reliably.

triple88a 02-07-2013 07:42 PM

Dont forget a ecu reflash on the snake oil list for 500 bucks :D

teleburst 02-07-2013 08:57 PM

Yeah, probably going to end up putting the 7k or so into a stock NB. I had plenty of fun in mine even without turbo. There were a couple of ~3k NAs floating around the area and I was floating the idea of doing the turbo thang on one of them. Probaby better for me to get a tight, lower mileage stock car. The NB is my fav body style anyway. If I could go $8k, I'd probably snap up TF's. I doubt I'm going to run into an acceptable MSM before April, but heck, you never know.

shuiend 02-07-2013 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Sploinkin (Post 976333)
Who is in the NE or Nashville? FM is in Colorado last I knew.

Flyin' Miata will give you an idea on what a "name brand" (for lack of a better term) installer will charge you. Or you could call up these guys I heard about from a friend in VA PBC Automotive | Welcome! and ask.

I do not recommend going to PBC Automotive to have a FM turbo installed. At one point in time a long time ago they were a miata specific shop, they have since been sold and now work on everything.

Sploinkin 02-08-2013 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 976566)
I do not recommend going to PBC Automotive to have a FM turbo installed. At one point in time a long time ago they were a miata specific shop, they have since been sold and now work on everything.

Good to know. I don't live anywhere close to them but I'll let my friend in VA know.

concealer404 02-08-2013 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by teleburst (Post 976559)
Yeah, probably going to end up putting the 7k or so into a stock NB. I had plenty of fun in mine even without turbo. There were a couple of ~3k NAs floating around the area and I was floating the idea of doing the turbo thang on one of them. Probaby better for me to get a tight, lower mileage stock car. The NB is my fav body style anyway. If I could go $8k, I'd probably snap up TF's. I doubt I'm going to run into an acceptable MSM before April, but heck, you never know.


My MSM is for sale.

turbofan 02-08-2013 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by teleburst (Post 976559)
Yeah, probably going to end up putting the 7k or so into a stock NB. I had plenty of fun in mine even without turbo. There were a couple of ~3k NAs floating around the area and I was floating the idea of doing the turbo thang on one of them. Probaby better for me to get a tight, lower mileage stock car. The NB is my fav body style anyway. If I could go $8k, I'd probably snap up TF's. I doubt I'm going to run into an acceptable MSM before April, but heck, you never know.

Meet you in the middle (on price). Needs a tune.

teleburst 02-08-2013 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 976791)
My MSM is for sale.

Feel free to PM me with details. Understand though that I can't buy anything until my house closes on March 28th.

concealer404 02-08-2013 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by teleburst (Post 976801)
Feel free to PM me with details. Understand though that I can't buy anything until my house closes on March 28th.

PMing.

teleburst 02-08-2013 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 976800)
Meet you in the middle (on price). Needs a tune.

Yeah, I'm pretty stuck on $7k as a max. I had said that $6k was my max, but I'm pushing the envelope at $7k. Not that I don't think that $7.5k would be an awesome deal, mind you.

concealer404 02-08-2013 01:45 PM

My bad dude... i didn't see your price range. Let me know if you're interested or not, but i'm not selling my car for $7k. You won't be getting an MSM worth a damn for $7k, unfortunately.

turbofan 02-08-2013 01:46 PM

I understand.

Concealer, do you have a thread for said MSM for sale? If you're selling it within his 7k budget, then there may be room in my life for two Miatas, temporarily.

triple88a 02-08-2013 01:47 PM

Do your math of the cost of car+turbo+other crap. All set and done its going to cost you alot more than that.

Around here NBs go for 8-10k stock. Add another 3k for a cheap turbo kit, another 1k for ecu, another 1k for other extras and you're already looking at a pretty high final cost. Assuming it was built properly buying someone elses project (with good history) is definitely worth it (again assuming you trust the person didnt blow anything on it already)

teleburst 02-08-2013 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 976806)
My bad dude... i didn't see your price range. Let me know if you're interested or not, but i'm not selling my car for $7k. You won't be getting an MSM worth a damn for $7k, unfortunately.

Yeah, was kinda surprised to see your post. That's why I didn't even comment on the MSM suggestion someone made.

PS, contrary to the impression that I seem to have given, I'm not a Miata nOOb. I'm not even a turbo nOOb as I'm currently driving a '99 Saab 9-3 Convertable. I bought it with the insurance money from my stolen '99 NB (reluctantly as I didn't have a lot of time to buy a car when the rental from my insurance ran out). Never liked the Saab as I was used to the Miata. Big, heavy, bloated, like driving a big marshmallow even with the 5 speed, plus lots of unnecessary crap. Plus, it will eat you out of house and home. I'm ditching it shortly.

teleburst 02-08-2013 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 976809)
Do your math of the cost of car+turbo+other crap. All set and done its going to cost you alot more than that.

I have. Hence my post about probably just sticking with a stock NB. Of course, there are some for sale cars that come in under budget, but I'm leery about buying someone else's work.

triple88a 02-08-2013 01:52 PM

Seeing that most of the cars sold here are well documented with everything thats been done to them i'd feel safe taking a mans word.

I purchased a used turbo kit that never really saw boost for my nb. Just follow the guys posts... It started from the installation, then went on to trying to tune it, then went on to other bandaids, then went on to raging that it wont work right and then came up the selling stuff threads which is where I came in and snatched it for quite cheap (1300 vs 2k).

concealer404 02-08-2013 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 976808)
I understand.

Concealer, do you have a thread for said MSM for sale? If you're selling it within his 7k budget, then there may be room in my life for two Miatas, temporarily.


Sorry, i missed the budget part. :(

If i was selling it within that budget i'd just keep it and do something seriously stupid to it.

teleburst 02-08-2013 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 976814)
Seeing that most of the cars sold here are well documented with everything thats been done to them i'd feel safe taking a mans word.

I purchased a used turbo kit that never really saw boost for my nb. Just follow the guys posts... It started from the installation, then went on to trying to tune it, then went on to other bandaids, then went on to raging that it wont work right and then came up the selling stuff threads which is where I came in and snatched it for quite cheap (1300 vs 2k).

Yeah, I said "leery", not opposed.


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