CX Racing Turbo Kit
 

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Turbo no hit block?

Oh god. the blue THE BLUE THE BLUE

Why no cxracing radiator on the car? lol

Them comments.. Who's jeff?

He's on this forum using his name as his username. I lol'd.

Somebody "like" Jeff's comments, please!

Sup bitches.

It makes me wonder is why a company like this couldn't come to a forum like this and be like:
"hey MT, we're CX racing, we make turbo kits(and other assorted bullshit), and try to do it on the cheap. What we want to know is, what could we do to better our kits so that you would buy them"

Am i missing something in this logic? Perhaps they wouldn't like what we would tell them. If they could produce a manifold / downpipe cheaper than the competition, but just as strong. Well... That's what free market is all about right?

It's most likely because a majority of the members here have terrible attitudes so nobody takes them seriously. You literally have to weed through the garbage to find the good info, and not may companies have time for that.

Start one one thread asking for feedback or ideas to make themselves a better company.. Follow responses, and chime in when necessary. There's not much weeding to do there.

Nieve much? It would turn into a chinese bashing party with the first reply.

I suppose. I know it will never happen though. There are enough dumbass kids already handing them money hand over fist for their shitty turbo kits, that they have no need to actually go out and design something that lasts.

Their other american R&D kits seem to be at least sch10 304SS. I would think a log made from sch10 would survive what most people buying that kit would throw at it.

I'm calling BS... I'd say more than half of the members here use the following CX racing shit:

1. Intercooler
2. Charge pipes
3. Radiator
4. Turbo
5. BOV (I might be reaching on this one, but i've seen a couple)


*I actually use none of their parts because, i support vendors who are part of the community.

I like how they enjoy touting the fact that the turbo provided with the kit is capable of 350 hp.

nb4 "i used the cx racing kit with bandaids and tried to max out the turbo, my rods look like spagettin noodles now, miatas suck my civic could do over 9000 with stock internals and a ti-86 for a computer."

edit: I have a cxracing radiator and intercooler. CXRacing's problem is they seem to do actual R&D one some of their parts. But everything I am looking at on their ebay store and website, all the miata parts look exactly like very other chinese aluminum foil pice out there.

What does "R&D" in this case actually mean? That they took one of their universal intercooler kits, cut the bends to fit, and now will just include those with a churbo and tin-foil manifold?

No the stuff they do in america seems like actual legit work. They actually have some shit for other cars coming out of america that looks decent and totally workable.

Even though that sounds like it would be great... the reason the don't is because people here would eradicate their asses and the thread would turn into complete shit. They are a business, and even though this place is a great source of information it they would probably be better served if someone actually bought it, tested it, and posted their results/complaint/comments/concerns - they could read that, and go off of that for future improvements.

An example is that emusa company...

Ahem https://www.miataturbo.net/prefabbed...bo-kits-19358/

And reread what i posted here.

People don't buy certain products they make for a reason. They also DO buy some products they make for a reason... So you're whole point is moot.

The same EMUSA of which one of their tech/development people told me point blank to my face that they were going to buy an FM2 kit to copy? Those guys don't do a goddamn thing but copy shit with the cheapest materials they can find.

CXRacing is no better, and i've had some pretty shitty customer service issues with them. (Used to buy all my intercooler piping, couplers, and clamps from them.)

I disagree with you fully Erat. This place used to give noobs a hard time, now it's just a flame fest everywhere, CX racing would get raped out the door. People here have forgotten that companies exist to make parts and get paid. Regularly people point at cars that I have had a hand in building and say 'hurr durr why didn;t you buy these parts and do it this way'. Well basically because I have to be able to sell that stuff and this isn't out of the goodness of my heart.

Same for these companies and they will just get shouted down.

MT has an unrealistically high expectation of what companies should supply for what prices and how they should act and somehow still pay their bills.

Dann

We'll never know, because they never will ask.

I'm willing to be proven wrong. Sure this site is full of a bunch of childish little babies(at times), but i feel if someone with some actual intelligence comes here with advice it won't be bad. They also have to be able to see through the bullshit. You don't see FM, or BEGi, or any other vendor getting all pissy when someone badmouths their product. They learn from it and develop something better. I haven't been here very long, but i know that the turbo Miata community has come a long way and it's not from pissing vendors off out the door.

Though. If making a bullshit shitty part keeps the lights on, then more power to them. Who are we to judge. We know their manifolds suck, so no loss for us. Again, a lot of users on this site use their products with the exception of a manifold or downpipe... Just sayin'.

Ha... You must be michael meador. lol At your service.

Anyway, I totally agree with Erat on this one, on all counts. I think if someone from their company who properly speaks English were to show up and be a reasonable human being, it could be a productive thread.

What does that have to do with my point? I'm answering your question regarding why they don't come here and ask for improvements, not co-signing them. Stop getting so e-defensive and read what I wrote. :facepalm:

Why would they come and ask for improvements? Again, Because they know better. Everything you are re-posting is re-re-iterating what is already obvious 9 times over. Nobody cares. Buy it, don't buy it... [/'Moot' point #1]
Here we go. It's like SSAC vs Hotshot convo's manifesting itself from like 04, hehe. I'm not defending anyone.

I personally don't care about copies of copies of copies and no R&D. That's not what I'm talking about. I could care less. There's nothing wrong with it. were talking about pipes and hardware, not someones software. It's a stupid argument which leads to the same thing. Emulation. We all know you get what you pay for out here for the most part. Not my point.

I'm simply pointing out the fact that so many people jump down peoples throat that haven't bothered to test their stuff personally before yapping their trap and condemning people. Classic forum antics since before car forums... Nobody really respects that bandwagon shit. There are real tests done by people and then they posted their facts. EMUSA is shit, but their are articles explaining their downfalls, and an in depth look at their wastegates and success with them. All that ebay shit is like that though (casting, they don't test, quality control, etc).

Again, nobody is defending anybody - in fact I'm generally in agreement. I have had my fair share of failures due to cheap stuff, but when I have I've posted my PERSONAL experience. Not someone elses, or what someone else said. The simple facts are, generally the people that get away with using cheap stuff don't post about full/partial successes because they are either afraid of the backlash, or they know it's not worth the banter so they keep to themselves and don't share... which is the reversal definition of the epitome of a car forum. The only people that will ever get praised for using cheap stuff and succeeded are high exalted members.

[/'Moot' point #2]

You're talking in circles and i still think you failed to either read and or understand what i'm saying. I thought i was pretty clear in my posts, but i guess not.

So just stop.

Nah, read what he said again, he is spot on.

Dann

The posted pics of the manifold with the disclaimer "This is the prototype mockup. not a production."
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1383658516

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1383658516

lol that looks fun to weld ^


No he's making stupid assumptions. I even said we don't know, we have no idea.
I also agreed about if what they do pays the bills and keeps the lights on, more power to them.

I'm also already calling out shit talkers before they would have a chance to talk crap. We KNOW what sucks. BUT we use ebay parts because we KNOW they work.

Assumptions are not spot on.

cant tell if 16ga or sch10. But ridiculous bundle of snakes is ridiculous.

They' obviously be cutting those tacks to the flanges and making fixtures for each tube to weld all the tubes individually then welding them to the collector and flange.

I'll keep it simple then. :jerkit:

So i can just buy this instead of the TrackSpeed kit?

Saves me $4k

No, you can't buy either one since NEITHER ARE AVAILABLE.

So I save $6k and I am CARB compliant.

Best. Day. Ever.

I like you. Wanna cuddle?

Pretty much the only thing in common with them we'll ever have :party:

I have a close friend running their sch10 top mount setup on his ka24de motor, making over 400whp for 4 months now no problem. I know thats not long enough to say its good, but thats a whole lot longer then their regular crap manifolds will last with that abuse. If they made a ramhorn style bottom mount manifold for a 1.6 i would purchase it happily at the same price as their ka24de ramhorn.

They have a finished one of these, it is sch10 stainless, and they said $480 for the manifold with gaskets and crappy bolts. Or 1500, for turbokit with downpipe and intercooler setup. Hoping that includes the turbo. It would be the equivalent of the Shanghai S4 without electronics. May or maynot come with oil lines. Its also a T3 flange... But it looks good for what it is.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...19050313_o.jpg

That... looks way better than i'd like to admit.

Besides the shit gaskets and bolts. Like I said earlier, the turbo stuff that gets developed in cx racing america actually looks pretty damn good.

I can't comprehend how they go and do something like that and yet they still have yet to put together a simple/reliable log that would be 20x easier to make, and sell way faster.

price a good reliable 1.8 log mani at 250 and I bet it would fly off the shelves faster than they could make them

even easier - they could make a knockoff of the begi s cast log like they knocked off the s4 and if it was priced under 300 I bet it would sell like hotcakes too

So if that doesn't include churbo, you're looking at manifold, downpipe, and intercooler+piping...

What does a comparable artech manifold and downpipe run?

I don't see a lot of manifolds that tilt the turbo as this one does.

I'm somewhat concerned about the material used. I don't know what thickness stainless steel is on the BEGI S4, but most custom long tube manifolds use sch40 mild steel which seems like it would put up with the vibrations from our engines a lot better.

Someone with more knowledge on the matter have any input?

The S4 thing was originally SS. About two years ago I changed it to sched 40 mild steel weld els.

corky

4 month resurrection.

So has anyone actually tried this? Curious about what kind of life expectancy it has.

$1,388 on their website with assumedly Chinese turbo still doesn't seem outrageous.

Unless there is someone who is too embarrassed to speak up, no one here has tried it. I'm not a fan of the IC piping routing they had to do. But for the price, unknown quality and durability, I would go with the BEGI ShanghaiS starter kit then source your own lines and IC setup and be in the same price range.

I like some of CXRacings stuff very well, but I'm hoping to complete my whole setup for a little less than that price and that includes electronics.
I think most people on here are either going to piece together a kit using a known quality manifold and downpipe or overbuild a manifold themselves.

I think CXRacing would have better luck if they sold a starter kit of only the manifold downpipe and turbo. This would at least have a better possibility of getting the components into some capable home brew setups for cheap where we could see how they hold up

They do as well.

Manifold, Downpipe and turbo only.

The CXRacing drift car at FormulaD @ Road Atlanta last weekend was pretty bad ass. Was surprised at the setups the top drift guys were running. They are serious machines. I was there pit crewing for my buddy 1uz ae86 running in the Global Time Attack. The Vibrant 1000hp s2k was pretty sick also. We used to buy aluminum piping/bends/connectors etc... from them alot. I didn't know they had grown so much. Alot of the time attack cars were using vibrant fab parts as well.

Was the CXRacing drift car a Miata?

Has anyone tried this kit? Is it worth the money?

Someone talk me out of buying this manifold and trying to jam an EFR on it...

Do it. Be our guinea pig. Report your results.

Do it, for science. But what T3 single scroll EFR are you going to jam on it?

Don't know. I forgot that the 6758 was not available in t3. Back to the drawing board.

EFR 7670 is T3

.........

Haha pat with the bump!

Now there's really no reason to use this crap with an EFR...

:)