Cryoed Turbo/Super?
07-28-2009, 05:26 PM
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Cryoed Turbo/Super?
Had a thought earlier, not sure whether it was the mari... fresh air... or maybe I am actually a genius. Anyway, what do you think would benefeit from Cryo and REM treatment (plus maybe a teflon or Swain dry film lubricant coating) of either the screws in a twin screw/roots supercharger or the scroll in a turbo? Other than bragging rights do you think it would make a ~5, crank horse power difference?
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07-28-2009, 05:57 PM
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Had a thought earlier, not sure whether it was the mari... fresh air... or maybe I am actually a genius. Anyway, what do you think would benefeit from Cryo and REM treatment (plus maybe a teflon or Swain dry film lubricant coating) of either the screws in a twin screw/roots supercharger or the scroll in a turbo? Other than bragging rights do you think it would make a ~5, crank horse power difference?
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07-28-2009, 06:57 PM
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A company is the UK (i'll find the link for ya) does a "special" cryo treatment and actually treats many F1 teams components because of its effect. An example on their site is Pulsar GTiR gearboxs break at anything over 300 horses and with a standard 'box treated so far its handled over 500 without even a hitch. Testing is done on the strip too which is fairly violent.
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07-28-2009, 07:12 PM
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I think most of us a familiar with cryogenic treatment because of its effects in making steel stronger, but any improvements in coeficient of friction and termal conductivity will most likely be so small that it probably would not be measurable.
I kind of makes sense to try with the screws of a supercharger (if your already wasting your time with a screw-type supercharger), but I cant see any reason why you would ever cryogenically treat the "scroll" of a turbo (im assuming he means the turbine housing) when its a completely non-moving part...
I kind of makes sense to try with the screws of a supercharger (if your already wasting your time with a screw-type supercharger), but I cant see any reason why you would ever cryogenically treat the "scroll" of a turbo (im assuming he means the turbine housing) when its a completely non-moving part...
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07-28-2009, 08:10 PM
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I would to believe any thermal and frictional advantages to be small but small things can mount up over time. Possibly produce a slightly harder wearing prodcut because of the thermal and/or frictional changes.
As for the guts of a charger. I'm not sure a turbo would benefit in anyway from it really. A super may increase efficiency if the screws were done but as already said the increase would be minimal however I'd guess the benefit would be over a long time such as service intervals could be longer or service life.
As for the guts of a charger. I'm not sure a turbo would benefit in anyway from it really. A super may increase efficiency if the screws were done but as already said the increase would be minimal however I'd guess the benefit would be over a long time such as service intervals could be longer or service life.
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07-29-2009, 02:03 PM
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Quick google search...
1st response NWCRYO.
2nd response, Nitrofreeze, lists pricing for cryo treating super and turbo chargers.
Guess you aren't the only one smoking the fresh air.
1st response NWCRYO.
Automotive parts that benefit from cryogenics:
Axles, bearings, blocks, brake rotors, brake drums, camshafts, cam followers, clutch paks, connecting rods, crank shafts, cylinder sleeves, drive shafts, gears, heads, intake manifolds, lifters, oil pumps, pistons, piston rings, push rods, rocker arms, spark plugs, spark plug wires, superchargers, transmissions, turbo chargers, u-joints, valves, valve springs, water pumps, wrist pins.....and MORE.
Axles, bearings, blocks, brake rotors, brake drums, camshafts, cam followers, clutch paks, connecting rods, crank shafts, cylinder sleeves, drive shafts, gears, heads, intake manifolds, lifters, oil pumps, pistons, piston rings, push rods, rocker arms, spark plugs, spark plug wires, superchargers, transmissions, turbo chargers, u-joints, valves, valve springs, water pumps, wrist pins.....and MORE.
Guess you aren't the only one smoking the fresh air.
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