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Old 05-10-2014, 06:01 PM   #1
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So I am new to the forums but I have done tons of research. What I'm looking to do is buy an FMII Hydra Turbo Kit and put it on my 1997 miata. Im willing to pay the extra money for a complete kit because reliability is number 1 being this car is my daily driver. Does anybody know of any turbo manifolds with an external wasegate that work with this kit with little to no modifications. I'm also looking to vent the ewg to atmosphere for the amazing sound. The reason I am looking for this solution is for the easily upgradable option in the future.

Any feedback will help, and please don't crucify me because I am a forum noob.

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Call FM.
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Let me get this straight... you can go look at all the FM stuff on their website... and yet COMPLETELY miss the FMIIR that is advertised as an EWG? You did no research at all.
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If all you want is the EWG sound, just put a loop of that sound on a cd and play it very loud as you accelerate.
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I saw the FMIIR kit but its an extra $1k, and it comes with the ewg plumed into the down pipe so its not the dump tube I'm looking for. On top of all of that the Minimum size turbo is defiantly too big for my build. Stock motor responds better with the 2560R. So yet again was anybody able to find a turbo manifold that will work with FMII Hydra Kit and have an EWG flange?
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Doesn't exist, will never work, sorry.
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Well I came to this forum thinking the people here were helpful and informative. Is there anybody that makes custom manifold that would be able to get the job done at a reasonable price. Or is there a way of doing it myself. Any answer or helpful insightful information is better than that s**t^^^
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I enjoy being a member of this forum because by and large, the active members are capable of doing a modicum of research before asking stupid questions.


Here's your freebie: Artech or BeGi.


Cry more.
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I saw the FMIIR kit but its an extra $1k, and it comes with the ewg plumed into the down pipe so its not the dump tube I'm looking for. On top of all of that the Minimum size turbo is defiantly too big for my build. Stock motor responds better with the 2560R. So yet again was anybody able to find a turbo manifold that will work with FMII Hydra Kit and have an EWG flange?
Pretty much any shop worth a **** will do custom work if you CALL THEM ON THE PHONE and ASK THEM about it. They want your money... you are not paying us to do your research for you.

Keith from FM seems nice on the forums, probably just as nice on the Phone. I know Stephanie from BEGi is very knowledgeable, and willing to discuss anything turbo related on the phone.

If you call up FM or BEGi and say "I want a 2560 with your external WG system, with the WG dumping to atmosphere" they will think you are dumb for wanting to dump to atmosphere, but they will take your $$$ and provide what you asked for.

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Well I came to this forum thinking the people here were helpful and informative. Is there anybody that makes custom manifold that would be able to get the job done at a reasonable price. Or is there a way of doing it myself. Any answer or helpful insightful information is better than that s**t^^^
I was going to give you the simple and inexpensive answer to your question until you posted this. The answer is probably shorter than this post.

Suddenly, I don't care to help.
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I really struggled to find it in myself to put more effort in my helpful response than this waste of air spent researching.
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Thanks for all of the helpful experienced knowledgable information. Sorry for being a d**k but I figured you guys may have some info that I wouldn't be able to find on a website or talking to someone on the phone. I really appreciate the freebie, and yet again sorry for being an ***.

I will have to call FM and talk to somebody about what my options are, even calling artech to see what they offer.
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I give up, you obviously CANNOT read English. On the FM website, it clearly states you can run their FMIIR setup with a dump tube. If the 2860 is too "big" for your setup, then you don't need an EWG in the first place.
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. If the 2860 is too "big" for your setup, then you don't need an EWG in the first place.

BUT BRO HE NEEDS THE EWG TO ACHIEVE COOL BRO STATUS AMONG HIS BRO BANDWAGON ON THE BRO STREETS. THE EWG WILL LET HIS BRO BANGWAGON FRIENDS KNOW WHEN HE IS COMING AND ALL THE BROGIRLS WILL THROW THEIR SOCKS AT HIM AND WANT TO GO FOR A RIDE SO THEY CAN HEAR THE BROGATE DUMPING INTO THE BROMOSPHERE Y0...GET IT RIGHT. GET A CLUE BRO. GOTTA HAVE THAT EWG...EVEN IF HE WAS RUNNING A DOOPERTHARGER!!!
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BUT BRO HE NEEDS THE EWG TO ACHIEVE COOL BRO STATUS AMONG HIS BRO BANDWAGON ON THE BRO STREETS. THE EWG WILL LET HIS BRO BANGWAGON FRIENDS KNOW WHEN HE IS COMING AND ALL THE BROGIRLS WILL THROW THEIR SOCKS AT HIM AND WANT TO GO FOR A RIDE SO THEY CAN HEAR THE BROGATE DUMPING INTO THE BROMOSPHERE Y0...GET IT RIGHT. GET A CLUE BRO. GOTTA HAVE THAT EWG...EVEN IF HE WAS RUNNING A DOOPERTHARGER!!!
LOLOLOLOL ^^^ This guy.
Im doing it for more precise boost control because I do plan on building the motor and doing a bigger turbo. I'm just trying to do it right the first time. I recently decided that I may even piece together the kit myself with all ARTech hot side parts. Im just trying to do things the right way because I don't want to do it again. This is also my first car that I have ever modified power wise. So I am learning! I know an EWG setup is over kill for my initial setup but I like it, that is what i want.
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So... what T2 flanged turbo do you intend to use that needs an external wastegate when paired with a quality hotside setup such as Artech will supply to you?
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So... what T2 flanged turbo do you intend to use that needs an external wastegate when paired with a quality hotside setup such as Artech will supply to you?
You are going to laugh but I'm going to weld the iwg closed on a 2560R. Tons of people do it with great results. tons of sr20 owners do it. So the answer is that the turbo i plan on using doesn't "need" an EWG. I am doing it purely because thats what I want to do.
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Ah so in this case EWG stands for Eggplant Waste Gate.
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1-I'm just trying to do it right the first time.
2-I don't want to do it again.
3-I know an EWG setup is over kill for my initial setup but I like it, that is what i want.
1) Then keep reading/researching...and I mean actually reading words, then re-reading them again.

2) You will. We ALL 'do it again'....even when you think you have every part done right, you'll change something. Don't get your hopes up on getting the perfect build done the first time...especially if this is really your first round with a Miata. Start simple. Get a kit (if you have the money) or piece one together using the parts list from the 'big name' kits out there. after you've amassed your parts, install and learn what the **** you're doing. Furthermore, learn how to drive your car with double the power before you triple the power....you'll be surprised how fast power will bite you in the ***.

3) Yes it is...and you clearly only want it for the sound/ricer status...as you state in the quote below. This is why you're getting ****. Even at 300+rwhp, there is no need to have a external dump...not to mention all the problems/side-effects of doing so "just for the sound".


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So I am new to the forums but I have done tons of research. What I'm looking to do is buy an FMII Hydra Turbo Kit and put it on my 1997 miata. Im willing to pay the extra money for a complete kit because reliability is number 1 being this car is my daily driver. Does anybody know of any turbo manifolds with an external wasegate that work with this kit with little to no modifications. I'm also looking to vent the ewg to atmosphere for the amazing sound. The reason I am looking for this solution is for the easily upgradable option in the future.

Any feedback will help, and please don't crucify me because I am a forum noob.
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I saw the FMIIR kit but its an extra $1k, and it comes with the ewg plumed into the down pipe so its not the dump tube I'm looking for. On top of all of that the Minimum size turbo is defiantly too big for my build. Stock motor responds better with the 2560R. So yet again was anybody able to find a turbo manifold that will work with FMII Hydra Kit and have an EWG flange?

Make up your mind. BFD if it's plumed into the DP. It works. It regulates boost. It definitely makes a different sound when the WG opens up. Hell, you stated yourself that you want solid/reliable boost control- why not go with something the absolutely works perfectly instead of trying to complicate it?
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LOLOLOLOL ^^^ This guy.
Im doing it for more precise boost control because I do plan on building the motor and doing a bigger turbo. I'm just trying to do it right the first time. I recently decided that I may even piece together the kit myself with all ARTech hot side parts. Im just trying to do things the right way because I don't want to do it again. This is also my first car that I have ever modified power wise. So I am learning! I know an EWG setup is over kill for my initial setup but I like it, that is what i want.
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You are going to laugh but I'm going to weld the iwg closed on a 2560R. Tons of people do it with great results. tons of sr20 owners do it. So the answer is that the turbo i plan on using doesn't "need" an EWG. I am doing it purely because thats what I want to do.

Backpedal harder.


And this is coming from someone who does run a turbo with the IWG flapper welded shut: You're a moron.
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