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nmwisima 09-17-2008 10:05 AM

HKS turbo kit for 1.6 Q's
 
Hello,

I m new, my name is Achilleas from Greece.

I recently bought a used HKS turbo kit for 1.6 Miata

Anyone had experience with the above mentioned kit?

Does the kit fit a 1.8 engine (friend wants to know)?

Is the F-CON Mini included in the kit allready programmed?
Is it re-programable? Where can I find an installation manual?

Thank you in advance.

I include some pics of the kit.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8393/p7190427oj6.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4400/p7190429ys6.jpg

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6937/p7190430eo9.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7704/p7190433uo5.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2205/p7190436pc4.jpg

And some extras
http://j-trade.cranky.jp/IMG_1398.JPG

http://j-trade.cranky.jp/IMG_1443.JPG

http://j-trade.cranky.jp/IMG_1223.JPG

Toddcod 09-17-2008 11:22 AM

I don't know anything about the F-con. Try google search???? You might can find a forum that is familar to them. ( Is that made by greddy? You can get help online through their website if it is GReddy.)

As far as differances between the 1.6 liter and the 1.8. The manifolds are different. And there are a few diferances between the the years on 1.8 liter setup's.

A post that will answer alot of questions is https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4288

GOOD LUCK! And Welcome to the DARSIDE.......!

KPLAFIN 09-17-2008 11:30 AM

The f-con is made by HKS....see that big HKS printed right above the "f-con" on the unit he's holding? :giggle: I don't know much about these either, and I doubt many on this forum will given we're all about Megasquirt.

Like Toddcod said you will need another manifold and also a downpipe to make this work with a 1.8L motor. You didn't get an intercooler with the kit?

nmwisima 09-18-2008 04:25 AM

Thanx for the answers.

No, kit doesnt come with i/c. I ll have one custom made.

Well, all I know about the F-Con is that you can tune fuel +/-16% and advance +/-4 degrees.

I dont know if its allready tuned for the car (it has the specs on a sticker on it, writing NA6) and I dont know if/how I can change its program.

Ryhn 09-18-2008 07:02 AM

Loot at here maybe can help you.
http://www.fd3s.net/fcon_install.html

And if you are planing to sell some parts from that kit let me know.

Toddcod 09-18-2008 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by KPLAFIN (Post 309241)
The f-con is made by HKS....see that big HKS printed right above the "f-con" on the unit he's holding? :giggle: I don't know much about these either, and I doubt many on this forum will given we're all about Megasquirt.

Like Toddcod said you will need another manifold and also a downpipe to make this work with a 1.8L motor. You didn't get an intercooler with the kit?

This computer must be blocking the pictures. All I see is things that say greddy on them. LOL

jipznet 09-24-2008 08:40 AM

I've got the same problem, I'm looking for the installation manual of HKS FCON mini
please help ....

zoom2zoom 09-29-2008 03:44 AM

The f-con Mini is a very basic fuel piggyback, I had one on my first turbo Miata and it was rock solid with 6psi. I might be able to find a wiring reference. Get me a better picture of the wires and I will look into it. Mine was from the early 90's and not sure if the wiring changed much.

nmwisima 09-29-2008 03:59 AM

I ll do that. Thank you.

jipznet 10-01-2008 02:24 AM

my fcon

http://32db.com/fcon-small.jpg

zoom2zoom 10-01-2008 03:25 AM

Dude, you need to resize your pictures, it won't even fit on my screen!! But mine uses 8 wires and I will look at it tomorrow to see if they are all the same.

jipznet 10-01-2008 01:36 PM

thanks buddy. wait for your good news.

jipznet 10-11-2008 05:20 AM

any news ?

nmwisima 10-15-2008 09:57 AM

Anybody knows something about how is that F-Con thing connected to the OEM ECU???

Saml01 10-15-2008 11:28 AM

Call up HKS, ask them for a wiring diagram if the dude you bought it from didnt give you one or try the HKS site. To answer your other question, if it came with the kit you bought its probably ready to go. Googling shows that you can get new ROM chips for it and nothing else.

nmwisima 10-16-2008 03:44 AM

Thanx!

Ajb 10-20-2008 09:27 AM

The person i bought mine off said you had to retard the base timing a few degrees. Not sure if this is true or not?

dustinb 10-20-2008 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Ajb (Post 321620)
The person i bought mine off said you had to retard the base timing a few degrees. Not sure if this is true or not?

That could be true, depending on what your timing is set at right now. Going by the post higher up that said it would do +/- 4 degrees of timing, this would put it at 6 degrees if you were at the factory 10 degree mark. But since a bunch of people go to 14, you'd probably have some issues.

Ajb 10-23-2008 04:05 PM

I have found a partial wiring instruction for the ecu. My question is does it wire directly to the wires(cut to ecu) or does it just splice into them and share with the ecu ?

jipznet 10-23-2008 04:13 PM

difficult to say cut it or splice it,
for example, airflow signal almost cut it and connect to IN and OUT of the external ECU,
but RPM and electric +/- signal almost splice into the orignal wires.

zoom2zoom 10-23-2008 04:32 PM

Sorry, been quite busy and it's getting cold here.

nmwisima 10-24-2008 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by Ajb (Post 322908)
I have found a partial wiring instruction for the ecu. My question is does it wire directly to the wires(cut to ecu) or does it just splice into them and share with the ecu ?

Could you plz send me that file. The instrunctions I mean. My mail is aanast@mototech.gr.

Maybe together we will work it out:)

jipznet 10-24-2008 04:39 AM

I want it too~ my mail is gary@32db.com, thx

Ajb 10-24-2008 06:04 AM

its not wiring diagram so to speak i have tags on the old ecu to tell me which wire they go to. Thing is for some reason not all the wires are used on my ecu as it was modified to run with higher fuel pressure and 1.8 injectors.

Maybe im using the 1.8 ECU , im not sure.

I will e mail some pictures this weekend.

miatanutz 10-25-2008 02:01 PM

The HKS FCon is preset, there are no adjustments. It controls fuel.
Mine had a plug spliced into the harness right at the ECU.
It works very well if used as directed. I ran one of these 1.6 HKS kits for 75K with no issues whatsoever. Properly setup and tuned should net around 150-160 whp. and a very linear curve.

jipznet 10-27-2008 01:30 PM

Hope this could help you guys :-)

http://32db.com/wire.gif

nmwisima 10-29-2008 06:22 AM

Hope it will. Thank you!

Ajb 11-09-2008 07:38 AM

What are you meant to do with the yellow pink and violet?

jacko 11-25-2009 10:04 AM

na6ce fcon mini wiring
 
Does any one know those remaining 3 wire?

jipznet 11-26-2009 04:51 AM

just ignore them, that's useless on MX5.

jacko 11-27-2009 01:28 AM

thanks so i just tap it? any split?

jipznet 11-30-2009 12:25 AM

just split them and tap it.

sixshooter 11-30-2009 01:48 PM

Parus,
You should have one of the moderators move this to the "Meet and Greet" section.

Welcome to the forum.

neogenesis2004 11-30-2009 01:51 PM

Necropost says, feed me brains!

levnubhin 11-30-2009 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 488636)
Parus,
You should have one of the moderators move this to the "Meet and Greet" section.

Welcome to the forum.



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jacko 11-30-2009 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by jipznet (Post 488458)
just split them and tap it.

i install HKS kits without wiring Fcon mini and engine is knocking when got boost will it help after wiring?

thanks in advance,
Jacko

dustinb 11-30-2009 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by jacko (Post 488862)
i install HKS kits without wiring Fcon mini and engine is knocking when got boost will it help after wiring?

thanks in advance,
Jacko

yes.
http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/61fps/...1/facepalm.jpg

jacko 12-02-2009 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by jipznet (Post 488458)
just split them and tap it.

Mine has no brown wire, what should i do? Did yours has brown wire?

jacko 12-02-2009 10:04 PM

1 Attachment(s)
i found picture which exactly as my fcon without brown wire. what should i do?

jacko 12-18-2009 12:51 PM

Anyone can help me with this????

dustinb 12-18-2009 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by jacko (Post 497599)
Anyone can help me with this????

Well you don't have the brown wire so don't worry about it.


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