Needs more ponies, kittens and trubos.

The mysterious DVCN is a large statured Asian man, who mysteriously survives on Mexican food and barbequed meats in the southern part of the TX. His car is held together by paper clips, chewing gum, Lowes, and the hopes and dreams of all of the ebay turbo kit noobs.

It is thought that he found his ECU while kickboxing kangaroos in Australia, and that he is the second known person to survive stealing plutonium from the Libyians. He feeds his car (which he calls Joe Bob) a tiny amount each day. This can be evidenced by the car's odd green color and the fact that it traps faster than many garret/megasquirt fanboiz.

We need some kind of test before new people are allowed to post. Like they must either "Pass an entry exam" and can post right away or they should spend a pre-determined amount of time searching and reading stickies before they are allowed to post.

I joined a Miata group on Facebook...and the crap I see posted on there would make CR pewbes cry foul. The affordability of the chassis, coupled with the cheapness of E-Gay parts,combined with the lack of this current generation of youngsters to have a creative or original thought is KILLING this car.



"Get off my lawn"

Our test here is usually 14 posts.. banned by the 15th. I do wish to see people with under 20 posts and -10 to -20 props not being able to post shit on the FS section.

I think that's actually a pretty good idea.

I always wondered why people are allowed to buy things that can't even PM. You see "omg please send me a message with your email address, I want this so bad but I can't PM yet!"

This is a community where people happen to sell things to one another, and provide help when needed. It's not a turbo-miata Craig's List, nor is it Miata Tech Support. Join the community, be a part of it, and then buy things from other members of the community/ask for help if you wish. (and you've read the stickies)

Seems to be more the norm than the exception. There's one I just saw, guy has 3 posts, asks for shipping quote to somewhere, edits his post and the reason for editing?

Noobs can't send PMs.

Shouldn't the classifieds be inaccessible/unviewable until 15 posts? Many forums have such restrictions.

I'm just going to leave some pictures of my experience with the tacotaco kit, though I only got the manifold and downpipe:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390414997
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390414997
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390414997

First pic shows the heater hose resting on the DP, the second shows the DP touching the chassis and subframe, the third pic can speak for itself. If I were to do it over I'd definitely just start with an off the shelf BEGI or FM kit, way less trial and error and ends up costing about the same once you replace most of the stuff in the ebay kit. I will state that the cast manifold did hold up well and that the cxracing intercooler kit actually did fit really well though.

For a mere half of a weeks pay more....

Shanghai Starter Kit 1994-1997


You get shit that doesn't break.

http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/u...yde/562289.jpg

Jokes aside though Nathan, this is a perfect example why you cant buy any orientation shit and expect it to fit which brings us to the next issue.. Once you install that kit you're stuck with that orientation so you either have to get custom made shit to replace the garbage or redo everything.

Taking that off my "watch list" on fleebay...

Back to saving for a super charger kit lol

Lol...even more fail. Just make sure you get the Jackson racing kit that mounts the blower directly above the exhaust manifold.

Just get what Chicksdigmiatas linked to. SC kits are pointlessly expensive.

Get an MS., some injectors, and a fuel pump.

A fleabay IC will do fine, so get some cheapy there. Pipes are not hard to modify/fab.

Have a local shop do a basic ex. system after the BEGI down pipe.

Get a clutch.

Done.

New here.
 

New here, but not new to the automotive world. I buy these kits to get me "close" and go from there. Anyone thinking they're going to buy something at 1/4 of the price is crazy. If you expect ill fitment and some work, these kits are a good buy if you are, going from "there", doing the work yourself. As long as you get it at the right price. Nobody complains about Chinese intercoolers anymore. The rest is just a matter of time.

Chintercoolers don't have a 99% failure rate.

the intercoolers aren't exposed to nearly as harsh conditions as the exhaust manifolds are, so they are fairly easy to get right as they just have to hold pressure and not burst

Please go back and read what I wrote. Judging by the responses it was miss read.

this thread is so win

I was just explaining the exhaust manifolds weakpoint, its heat cycling is what kills it. I think you could rate them more so on hours of life then miles

That's why I ended my post with. It's just a matter of time.

Be sure and let me know when the quality improves, and the lambs stop screaming.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1391302560

Thats just wrong on sooo many levels my friend. :rofl:

:bowrofl:

Isn't BEGI using Chinese turbos?

Begi sells multiple kits. Garrett and chinachargers. No they dont sell chinachargers claiming to be Garrett turbos.

Ewww. That thing's pants have a wet spot.
That's hot...about as hot as the vomit that's now in my mouth.

You forced me to look at its crotch! :cry:

I didn't say they were. This is about Chinese parts. Everyone claims they're all bad. I was just pointing out a reputable company uses these parts on their kits and claims good reliability.
Thanks for your input though.

Not all chinacargers are =. Pretty sure Begi found an acceptable chinese supplier and they only get their stuff from that factory.

QFT. Nobody says they're ALL bad. We said ebay Turbo kits, specifically ITT the tacotaco 1.8 turbo kit, is a terrible kit. If you buy a quality manifold and downpipe and utilize a chinese turbo and intercooler setup, you are joining a large constituent of miataturbo members.

GTFO.

Summerize
 

So then the last five pages can be reduced down too, don't buy the manifolds? And as I said from the very beginning. Just give it time.

Full circle.

GTFO as you said.

I only have 2 pages in this thread, and the entire first page is people flaming the noob for asking a retarded question.

It's funny how you think this is actually, like, a real conversation/discussion.

Ok

Or the downpipe.

Or the turbo.

Or the related components.

Believe it or not, the Chinese have multiple factories! It's a big place. And not everything that comes from China is poorly made crap! Crazy!

Some American companies will actually spend the time and resources on getting a relatively well made product to sell at a lower price point than the American/German/Japanese counterpart.

I promise you that vendors you find solely on eBay are not one of these companies. They will buy the absolute cheapest part they can find, mark it up and sell it to you. Straight from City of Industry.

But hey, don't bother listening to the old farts on here who have been there, done that, and seen them fail repeatedly for thousands of people. What do they know, right?! Experience is bullshit. I knew everything I needed for life when I was 16.

Although your advice contradicts a lot of advice given here. So I'm not sure why you posted that.

Because nothing in the TACOTACO turbo kit is near the standard of the Begi Shanghai kit. Thinking that buying an Ebay kit and replacing parts of it is an exercise in throwing good money after bad.

Considering the price points, there is no reason to choose taco's over Begi's. It's not as Warp Speed suggested, only the manifold that sucks.

Nice try
 

You're very presumptuous. You might want to reconsider what you think you know.

If you read my posts I was stating that the assumption that all Chinese parts are bad is wrong. Additionally what they might have wrong now will come around. There are many examples of this.

What I did not do was come in here spouting off like I know all about everything and assume that you are all ignorant kids.

I also don't feel the need to establish some kind of credibility by claiming how old I am and how much I know because of it.

Im more of a ILOVEBURRITOBURRITO person myself. ILOVETACOTACO kits crack ILOVEBURRITOBURRITO is where its at.IMO

:jerkit:

I could go for a taco... I think i'm going to make fish tacos with a mango avacado salsa for dinner.

Not all chinachargers are the same. Most are crap, some hold up, and those that hold up still don't make the power and torque that their genuine counterparts make, and don't last as long, because of design, QC, and materials.

Begi has something like a 15 day warranty on the churbos. Every single case of failure I've ever heard or read about got denied as user error. So the "reputable company" selling them with a "warranty" thing goes out the window.

THat said, I used a chinacharger on my previous setup, and it actually worked, and lasted, and I had no complaints.

I just think the statement about "in time they will improve" should be clarified with:
in time they might not be complete and utter waste of time and money, and would be at least good enough to try. I highly doubt that they will ever actually compete with their genuine counterparts. But who knows........

If I ever bought a china charger I'd port it like this before even bothering with it. Or rebuild like the second vid.

My chinacharger is fine. It is made at the TBO turbo factory and sold by EMUSA.

Hey sixshooter thanks for posting that. TBO looks like I somewhat decent company.

This is the smart thing to do. Share the experience you have had with these parts. That's how we'll learn which are the good ones. Instead everyone keeps the information to themselves for fear of being ridiculed by "Internet Rich" people who only buy the best money can buy. Some body is buying the Chinese parts because I know they're selling a ton of it.

Actually you're way off buddy.. Nonsense like this is the reason why people like you get "ridiculed".

No we're not "internet rich" people.. we're the "smart shopper" crowd here.

Sure some can afford the top of the line stuff custom made stuff the best money can buy. Most of us can't so we look for deals on used good parts. Used begi and FM kits can be found fairly often. Truth is do you want something thats garbage and will run like shit or wont run at all or do you want to actually enjoy the car you're building?

I can actually "afford" to buy nicer parts than I do. I choose to limit my expenditures on this hobby to an amount I have deemed reasonable. This "toy car" that I play with isn't my only hobby.

I have to agree with triple88a. Most of my parts were bought used and at great low prices. However if you ask my wife I still spent to much money on the car. I dont make a ton of money and Im the bread winner so if I can get a good deal on something that is built to last and has a good following I'll get it. Im the last person to jump in line to buy a NEW BEGi/FM kit or Artech or Absurdflow parts. I have nothing against their prices, I just cant afford it. So I stalk the classifieds day and night trying to find certified pre own quality stuff on here.

And again you are referring to a kit that you can get with a Chinese turbo. From a reputable company that says they use them with confidence. I know someone is going to say " yea but it's a quality Chinese turbo" .
Ok that's my point. Would you want to know which ones are good?
And what would you be ridiculing me for? What have I done?

I don't think anyone understands your point. Still.


BeGi doesn't sell JUST chinese turbos.

The main point of this thread is that the EYELURVETAKKOTAKKO kit sucks massive amounts of dick and the turbo is potentially the only thing even worth trying.

That's the point.

What's yours?

You must be retarded, where did i say that i'm referring to a chinese turbo kit?

Reread what I wrote, exactly.
Then click here.
BEGI Shanghai Miata Turbo Systems - BEGi
Then go back and read what I wrote again.

My point is clearly typed out on the screen for you to read. Go back and read what I actually typed.

Does begi offer the same warranty for their churbos as the genuine units?
No?

Why not?

Why do you have to resort to name calling? Does it make you feel better about yourself?

I was considering the shanghai and asked, and Stephanie made it very clear that the warranty on the shanghai is 15 days FROM RECEIPT. So if it takes you more than 2 weeks to get everything installed and tuned properly (not unlikely, seeing as how you don't *really* know when you're going to get it, and may not have the time blocked off to install) you're S.O.L. if it is D.O.A.

To be honest, that fact alone was enough for me to buy the BEGi-S instead of the Shanghai-S. I worked at a dealership long enough to know why some cars have a 10/100,000 warranty and some have a 3/36,000...

ok....

Would you mind highlighting your point in bold?



I still don't see where Triple88a said anything about a Chinese turbo kit. He wasn't referring to one. Your post makes no sense.

Hey Hyper, I mean warp speed, did you see my post? Or mlev's post?

You know why. Just as I do. The caveat to this is this line here from their site.

"We have testing a china charger in house for 10 months with no problems."

Bell has a pretty good reputation. They're not going to mess it up selling completely crap stuff. Even if they say buyer beware, it does not remove all liabilty nor blame. They know what they are doing.

Anyway this has just turned into something other than what I intended. So I'll just leave it at that. Everyone has their own thing. I just dont see the need to get "abrasive" over something so minor that everyone seems to not like anyways.

I won't argue this with you because you seem to know next to nothing and arguing vague stupid things.

I'll just ask:

Have you purchased from BEGi before?
Have you run a chinacharger for a substantial length of time?

I want to know because if you haven't, then you can go ahead and just stop posting in this thread altogether.