Being as I just bought a Miata, I have no particular experience to this car. That's not what this thread was about. The last couple of posts have turned into a play ground mentality questioning me and my automotive knowledge or skill. I promise if you were active in many of the Opel Kadett, Mustang, R32 R33 GTR, Caterham 7, or Subaru forums, I think you would have a different tone about the post that I have made. Just because I'm new here and have only said there should be a way to find out which of the chinese stuff was good, or which was bad, does not make me some evil person out to destroy everything you know or have. Which some how is what this turned into.

We don't need a way to find out which of the chinese stuff is good. We already know.

Been there, done that. Doesn't need to be questioned by people who don't know about these cars. We've done the hard work for you. We've made it easy for you. Be happy about it. No sour grapes.

Rejoice in the fact that the hard work has already been done for you.


We don't care what previous skills you might have. Just don't say stupid things and get butthurt when we point out that vague comments don't help anyone. I'm sure that 75% of us still have no idea what you were trying to talk about, myself included. It was just rambling posts about nothing stretched out to sound like they were important.


But seriously. We don't need help concerning Ebay turbo kits.

Ok this will be an easy question for you then. Which Chinese parts are good?

Ok, I'll bite: who are you in the subaru community? I'm on all those forums.

Those parts which reputable, well known companies are willing to put their reputation behind.

It's no different than any other car in that respect.

Many people on here are using Chinachargers with great success. A little fewer of them are using chinese ebay knockoff BOVs with mostly decent success.

I suspect even fewer may be using chinese wastegates with probably OK success.


I probably have more experience with Chinese turbocharging parts than many on here, because the cars i play with more than my Miatas have little to no aftermarket support and i don't see the point in sinking lots of money into them. (Barring my Escort. Yes.... Escort.)

Chinese knockoff bullshit i've used with no problems:

1) Chinacharger
2) BOV (though i have had to rebuild two of them and replace o-rings to get them to seal, out of the box)
3) Wastegate. Got it as part of a trade, used it. My car didn't explode.
4) AFPR. May not do this again, but the car didn't burn to the ground.
5) turbo manifold (Not a RWD BP, so irrelevant)

Same screen name on Nasioc and WRX forums, skylinesaustralia, gtrcanada, mach1forum, corral.net. I have the same screen name on all the forums I use.

I waive your experience, effective immediately.

This. You're not giving any new information. When prodded for your experience, you sidestep the question. Do you know why people are not responding positively to you? You aren't contributing anything, and you're perpetuating a discussion that has not only happened before, MANY times, but you're not even contributing to said discussion. It's like you're trying to be some sort of discussion leader or something.

+1

So the cast iron manfold on ebay is crap?

The cast iron log manifold? That's probably the only BP ebay turbo manifold i'd touch with a 10 foot pole, only possible exception is CX Racing's new bag 'o' snakes, but that's US-designed and possibly made.

Yes. In case you don't know, BP engines shake like Michael J. Fox after an all nighter of banging espresso. It is very difficult for anyone to come up with a cheap manifold that won't die a quick death. There's good reason that the few reputable vendors that offer Miata manifolds all have roughly the same price point, and it sure isn't sub-$100.00. Most of the Chinese manifolds will last a week before they crack. The eBay cast iron log manifold might give you a year of running, but it will crack in short order. It's been done and documented.

If you're into replacing parts every few months, or annually have at it. Many do. Most on this forum prefer quality parts that can stand up to rigorous use and not eat themselves.

Just to be clear, we are talking about el-cheepo Chinese parts on eBay not used name brand stuff correct?

I sure thought so. Isn't this thread about the ILOVETACOTACO kit and it's various "same-part-different-ebay-vendor" counterparts?

funny you should ask:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1315916850
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1315916850

you tell us

LOL. I'd like to formally retract my previous answer concerning this manifold.

You see, you asked stupid questions and asking stupid questions is acceptable here and there... the good ol "No such thing as a stupid question" saying but that only goes so far.. We answered your stupid question and fed you the answers with a spoon since we were trying to play nice. You're new so you most likely don't know that but we usually don't do that as this topic has been beaten to death and then beaten some more. So all and great but what do you do? You keep insisting the answers to your stupid question is not correct and you cry and moan. 2+2=4... "whaa but why isn't it 5, why wouldn't 5 work". What do you want man? You want people to tell you what you want to hear or you want the reality? Why ask at all? You dont think that if cheap ebay parts worked we'd be buying 500 bucks manifolds?

So I'm looking on the subaru forums and see a handful of threads and a few dozen posts made by you all of which are n00b questions and/or random posts.

Wow so impressive :laugh:

Or did you hope no one would call your bluff?

Hey, I know lots about Miatas (Miatae?) Maybe I should join the Subaru forums and spout off to the experts about how Subaru's work and what parts they should use! :idea:

I can't believe I've read all of this useless drivel. There are quite a few pages that add nothing to the forum and it bothers me. Please don't drag it out any longer.

You are not being truthful here. Also maybe my life ambition is not to be an automotive forum god with 22,000 posts.