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Old 02-24-2009, 07:59 PM   #1
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Well guys it began this afternoon. With all my parts thrown out I started putting this MSM turbo **** together on my 99-10th anniversary...

So i'm running the plumbing to the intercooler, but something is different. I'm not cursing and saying **** **** **** as I try to wiggle and squeeze charge pipes in place. The Mazdaspeed Miata charge pipes fit in without a hazzle and bolt right up to pre-threaded welding in bolts already in the chassis. I really like the powder coating as well. There is nothing that comes close to the ease of installing oem performance parts. The manifold fits perfect, the egr pipe threads right up with no bending.

I got most of the intercooler plumbing run so far, but I found I do need a part if anybody can help me.

Pics will be up in just a minute!
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Ok so what par tdo you need and congrats!
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Progress is good!
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It is a big hose that goes between the last charge pipe and the 90 degree throttle body inlet.
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Interested to see pics. Did you just buy the turbo setup used and keep the 99 engine or are you doing the complete msm motor swap?
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Here is my first pics. Not the boost control valve in the center

MazdaspeedTurboInstallation.jpg

What a breeze to install, man I love it! I would rather keep the factory air box, if there is any way I can make it breath better. Any ideas yall?

2nd, there is a big *** hose that goes in between the 90 degree throttle intake and the last charge pipe. If someone has this piece. I need it. Thanks!

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so why didnt you just buy the flyin miata intake from the get go and the begi throttle body inlet piece? unless you got all that **** piping for free, the only decent pipes are the ones that directly connect to the intercooler.

Glad to see you are selling of the **** stock interfooler, though.
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so why didnt you just buy the flyin miata intake from the get go and the begi throttle body inlet piece? unless you got all that **** piping for free, the only decent pipes are the ones that directly connect to the intercooler.

Glad to see you are selling of the **** stock interfooler, though.
Don't make fun of my Denso Interfooler. It's called ****-on-a-Stick thank you very much. Hot air comes in/Hot air comes out.

That begi throttle body inlet is coming. It is nice piece that looks factory. But as far as the intake is concerned. I actually like the box, it'll make for a quiet turbo, but how tough is it really just to take the box off and K&N that moe-foe...
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the box is a piece of ****, but that xylophone-looking ************ and the enlarging pipe its connected to are also pieces of ****. Im guessing you have the stock IHI unit, and a decent power increase can be seen by replacing all of the piping from the filter all the way back to the compressor inlet. As Im sure you noticed, there are a few retarded bends in there, and the positions of the various fittings arent very intelligent, either.

Now, FM claims with just their intake you get something like 50hp, although that may also include increasing the boost past the factory 8.5PSI.

Another question for you, are you just using the MBC or did you grab some of the (nearly worthless) boost control items from the mazdaspeed?

I also see the stock mazdaspeed bypass valve, its been known to leak - so check that before you curse the world if you see any signs of a vac/boost leak.

The 3-way solenoid likes to misbehave, the factory boost controller and sending unit are also points of failure. (I also wonder if you are using the mazdaspeed ECU, because that thing does a terrible job of keeping the AFR at an acceptable value even if you are stock)
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the box is a piece of ****, but that xylophone-looking ************ and the enlarging pipe its connected to are also pieces of ****. Im guessing you have the stock IHI unit, and a decent power increase can be seen by replacing all of the piping from the filter all the way back to the compressor inlet. As Im sure you noticed, there are a few retarded bends in there, and the positions of the various fittings arent very intelligent, either.

Now, FM claims with just their intake you get something like 50hp, although that may also include increasing the boost past the factory 8.5PSI.

Another question for you, are you just using the MBC or did you grab some of the (nearly worthless) boost control items from the mazdaspeed?

I also see the stock mazdaspeed bypass valve, its been known to leak - so check that before you curse the world if you see any signs of a vac/boost leak.

The 3-way solenoid likes to misbehave, the factory boost controller and sending unit are also points of failure. (I also wonder if you are using the mazdaspeed ECU, because that thing does a terrible job of keeping the AFR at an acceptable value even if you are stock)

What he said...I would toss the factory box. Any good aftermarket intake should make a 20-30hp difference when combine with a boost increase. I found the AEM CAI to be te cheapest (new). I think I got mine from nopionline.com for something like $150 new. My first bolt on was the AEM intake with a manual boost controller set at 10-11 PSI, baseline dyno before was 154rwhp, after was 184rwhp, so it does make a difference. I've see a few guys make them, but after parts, they didn't really save that much. I had issues with the electronic boost control as well. After I installed my Begi SGDP, I had crazy boost creep when I tried to use the factory electronic controller. When went back to the manual, all was well.
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I don't think I'll ever understand the purpose of paying to run an OEM MS setup.
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I don't think I'll ever understand the purpose of paying to run an OEM MS setup.
Cheap and easy!!!
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I don't think I'll ever understand the purpose of paying to run an OEM MS setup.
$$$

If I could find a cheap one I'd put it on my daily driver in a heartbeat.
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Cheap and easy!!!
Works for me. Kudos then.
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Now, FM claims with just their intake you get something like 50hp, although that may also include increasing the boost past the factory 8.5PSI.
That 50hp number comes with a complete intake system, and exhaust. Think it runs at something like 10psi.
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That 50hp number comes with a complete intake system, and exhaust. Think it runs at something like 10psi.
I don't think they claim that much, could be wrong though. Most intakes at max PSI before boost cut kicks in at around 10.5 PSI picks up about 30rwhp.
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Heck, I found a complete motor, tranny and turbo, mani, dp for $1300 last month. I was very tempted, but wanted to eventually see more than 200whp.
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Heck, I found a complete motor, tranny and turbo, mani, dp for $1300 last month. I was very tempted, but wanted to eventually see more than 200whp.

You can and you should of bought it. All you needed from there was a compressor wheel upgrade, a good DP and exhaust, and megasquit. That gets you close to 250rwhp if not more. $1300 for that setup and maybe another $1500 down the road and you would be well over that. I was at 215 on the dyno with SGDP, CAI, and exhaust, still on the factory crappy *** ecu.
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I was at 215 on the dyno with SGDP, CAI, and exhaust, still on the factory crappy *** ecu.
With those same mods (SGDP, exhaust, FM intake), mine was at 213rwhp / 205 ft.lb. AFTER dyno correction ... and unlike Mysdnor there are people here who can vouch for my numbers.
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