Ref. Ticket with Begi kit + MS PNP
#1
Ref. Ticket with Begi kit + MS PNP
I have a 93 miata with begi S-3. I got pulled over by a CHP and he poped my hood and gave me a ref ticket. I am in california, I am currently running rx-7 550cc injectors, MS PNP - no fuel pressure regulator - GM IAT - I WILL NOT PASS SMOG or Ref. FOR SURE. Peeps in CA. I need HELP! What do I need to do to make my car pass?
#12
Doh! I know that.. I'd just make it visually look like the BEGI-S kit then. Kind like what I am doing with my old 99 FMII kit. Sure it will have a piggy back MS but they don't need to know that. (I'm leaving the extra injectors and Piggy installed, but only thing it is doing is going to control boost)
They don't plug into the ODB port on in Ontario, Canada.
They don't plug into the ODB port on in Ontario, Canada.
#13
Sleeper
I would put it back to the closest thing you can get to the s kit or older fm1 kit( afpr No piggy back etc ) & get the eo sticker from Corky or Stephanie. The ref stations are smarter than your local corner smog guy. Keep in mind that for some reason the 90-93 1.6 cars seam to fail for high Nox. Dial back the timing to say 8* it seams to help. I am not an expert on the MS but have heard that guys are pasing with it at regular smog shops. Good Luck.
I would put it back to the closest thing you can get to the s kit or older fm1 kit( afpr No piggy back etc ) & get the eo sticker from Corky or Stephanie. The ref stations are smarter than your local corner smog guy. Keep in mind that for some reason the 90-93 1.6 cars seam to fail for high Nox. Dial back the timing to say 8* it seams to help. I am not an expert on the MS but have heard that guys are pasing with it at regular smog shops. Good Luck.
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Problem is that he's gotta go to a referee station. These guys aren't your local Cletus & Earl's, they're serious. These are the dudes who are sanctioned by the state to OK things like kit cars and hybrid conversions- they know their ****. The ref may wish to visually inspect the ECU, so the MS has to go. That means the stock blue-top injectors need to go back in, along with the AFM and NBO2. Dial the base TEN timing back to 6°BTDC.
I'd strongly advise against de-turboing the car. You show up at a ref station with a turbo ticket and an NA car, and they'll know something fishy is going on. If the ref is upset about going through a messy divorce, he can let you go, then recall you in a month or two.
mkulak and Stealth97 are right. Your best bet is to get the car into a 100% compliant situation as a BEGI-1. That means you'll need to get an RRFPR and a Pierburg pump installed on the car ASAP. I wouldn't worry about tuning the RRFPR, just stay out of boost on the way to the shop.
Here's the full text of EO D-349 so you know what you're up against: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-349.pdf
Out of curiosity, what were the 8 things he fined you for?
#18
Here's the full text of EO D-349 so you know what you're up against: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-349.pdf
I'm hoping BEGi has either an amended or updated E.O. for the kits they presently sell as CARB certified. Can anyone out there shed any light on this?
Last edited by monicaof9; 06-09-2008 at 11:43 PM.
#19
Sleeper pull the ms swap in the blue tops throw and fpr in and pull back the timming
Then i would seriusly look into the **** that got you pulled over and cut it out or lessen it. GL man
Kenzo idk about crush but they could revoke the plates etc, and fine you out the ***. There has been talk of crushing cars but mostly in canada. From what i believe this is all just hear say though.
Then i would seriusly look into the **** that got you pulled over and cut it out or lessen it. GL man
Kenzo idk about crush but they could revoke the plates etc, and fine you out the ***. There has been talk of crushing cars but mostly in canada. From what i believe this is all just hear say though.
#20
Yeah, as usual, sane advice from Joe... You need to look just like the kit. Find out if there are any easier refs in your area. My father took his chevy to the ref ~four times... Then he went to a different ref and they were just happy to see such a cool car.
But basically, the car needs to be 100% stock plus the mods listed in the EO. Anything else, even a different color/material hose, can get you failed. I don't know the consequences, though.
But basically, the car needs to be 100% stock plus the mods listed in the EO. Anything else, even a different color/material hose, can get you failed. I don't know the consequences, though.