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soviet 03-06-2013 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 986091)
Standard kits will ship with a boost level that's safe for a stock longblock.

0psi!

(I kid)

Savington 03-06-2013 01:01 PM

One example of a blown motor on a 6258 at 10psi does not mean that stock engines aren't safe when fed by a 6258. Our kits will make power/boost levels that are appropriate for long-term use with a stock engine - we expect that to be between 8 and 11psi depending on the base compression and supporting mods.

soviet 03-06-2013 01:11 PM

Are you ceramic coating anything?
All EFRs from Full-Race now have ceramic coated housings. Are you doing anything similar?

I'm thinking of coating my setup.

18psi 03-06-2013 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 986434)
One example of a blown motor on a 6258 at 10psi does not mean that stock engines aren't safe when fed by a 6258. Our kits will make power/boost levels that are appropriate for long-term use with a stock engine - we expect that to be between 8 and 11psi depending on the base compression and supporting mods.

Oh yeah I wasn't (actually/seriously) saying built is mandatory.....

...but as we all know, its pretty darn close to it.

Impuls 03-06-2013 03:18 PM

So it's the 6758 a better pick for 18-20+psi or is the 6258 better with the faster spool?

thenuge26 03-06-2013 03:29 PM

They both can run 18-20+ psi just fine. What power numbers are you looking for? PSI is just a measure of restriction, it tells you nothing about performance.

Savington 03-06-2013 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 986438)
Are you ceramic coating anything?
All EFRs from Full-Race now have ceramic coated housings. Are you doing anything similar?

I'm thinking of coating my setup.

I have yet to see a ceramic coating that will hold up to my satisfaction.

I've seen FR's coatings and I wasn't impressed. I've never understood why a shop would coat the flange faces, and coating the wastegate flapper arm is just kludgy.

It's investment-cast stainless steel (or at least it will be again at some point soon) - I see absolutely no reason to incur the additional cost. If you want to add it, you're welcome to, but it won't be something that we offer.

Leafy 03-06-2013 03:44 PM

I think FR uses ceramic paint, at least thats what it looks like. It doesnt look like a true ceramic, its not thick enough and they only rate it to 2000*F.

Impuls 03-06-2013 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 986540)
They both can run 18-20+ psi just fine. What power numbers are you looking for? PSI is just a measure of restriction, it tells you nothing about performance.

Ofcourse, I'm wanting in the 350+ range. I don't want to put my 6 speed threw to much strain to where it blows when I want to use my horses and torques slinging about corners.

which as I've seen in earlier post that the smaller well also run 20psi easy and good for 325hp.
So I want sure if I should just go for the next bigger and sacrifice some spool time. which shouldn't be much with the amazing EFR's correct?

TurboTim 03-06-2013 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 986544)
I have yet to see a ceramic coating that will hold up to my satisfaction.

Same here.


It's investment-cast stainless steel (or at least it will be again at some point soon) - I see absolutely no reason to incur the additional cost. If you want to add it, you're welcome to, but it won't be something that we offer.
I heard about this...any idea why they aren't the pretty investement cast stainless at the moment? Another supplier problem?

Of the "few" tial investement cast stainless turbines I've sold, I've sent back a "few" for quality issues. They were nice enough to send me some Tshirts and hats for my troubles. Suppler problems aren't fun.

Savington 03-06-2013 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 986552)
I heard about this...any idea why they aren't the pretty investement cast stainless at the moment? Another supplier problem?

Complexity issues with the twinscroll IWG housings, apparently. From what I was told at PRI in November, the cast housings aren't a permanent solution, and the investment cast stuff will be back at some point.

jimj64 03-06-2013 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 986544)
I have yet to see a ceramic coating that will hold up to my satisfaction.

I've seen FR's coatings and I wasn't impressed. I've never understood why a shop would coat the flange faces, and coating the wastegate flapper arm is just kludgy.

It's investment-cast stainless steel (or at least it will be again at some point soon) - I see absolutely no reason to incur the additional cost. If you want to add it, you're welcome to, but it won't be something that we offer.

Savington, sorry if this is a dumb question but are you saying your exhaust manifolds will be investment cast stainless? I thought they were welded tubular manifolds?

Jim J

Savington 03-06-2013 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by jimj64 (Post 986556)
Savington, sorry if this is a dumb question but are you saying your exhaust manifolds will be investment cast stainless? I thought they were welded tubular manifolds?

Jim J

I was referring to the EFR turbine housings. We have not made a final decision on the material/construction of our manifolds.

swimming108 03-13-2013 09:44 PM

i noticed in earlier posts in this thread that you might look into emission compliance with this kit. Is there any truth to that? will you attempt to keep EGR functionality?

Savington 03-13-2013 09:54 PM

It's not on our radar right now.

hustler 03-13-2013 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 986565)
I was referring to the EFR turbine housings. We have not made a final decision on the material/construction of our manifolds.

Cast Inconel.

Mach1 03-27-2013 06:01 PM

I wonder how Duke Nukem:Project Turbo is coming along.

718 of 4000 03-27-2013 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mach1 (Post 994640)
I wonder how Duke Nukem:Project Turbo is coming along.

Probably the same as Starcraft III: The Rebellion of Turbo

3rdCarMX5 03-27-2013 11:40 PM

You mean in 60 days?

Savington 03-28-2013 12:22 AM

Forgive me for not sticking to a self-imposed design deadline in order to make significant functional improvements and reduce the overall cost of the product. I'm working as quickly as I can, but I'm not going to release something I'm not happy with.


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