turbo kits
I gotta newb question. Has any one bought an eBay turbo kit and made decent hp? Like 300 hp or close? If so how reliable is it before I have to start changing out parts for quality parts? And I mean with pretty good engine management. I been lookin on eBay for a pretty complete kit but I don't wanna buy one if it ain't gonna last a while with a good tune. I have a pretty good built motor but I'm not gonna swap it in till I have everything to get it running good! Lemme know!
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Without being a complete dick (which is precisely what you'll get from most about this topic):
Did you even bother to search? Do so before this thread turns into a shitstorm. There have been countless threads about this before you and they will answer all of your questions. |
Well I searched through the eBay turbo kits thread but haven't found anything about power made with them or how long any one lasted with a good tune before anything broke! I figured some people were gonna flame me but I was hoping someone would answer me that have dealt with them!
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Most of the users here run the bone stock ebay kits without any part swapping. Those kits really are a great deal. With the number of kits those guys are selling to the miata community, it's a wonder they haven't increased prices.
Jeff is one of the few that don't run the ebay kit. He pretty much bashes them every chance he gets and tries to push noobs toward his favorite kit, the FFS coldside kit. |
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I highly recommend the kit from ilovetacotaco. Search on eBay for it.
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Originally Posted by thirdgen
(Post 751701)
I highly recommend the kit from ilovetacotaco. Search on eBay for it.
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That was hilarious hustler lol! Jasonrobo02 thanks for the positive feedback. Thirdgen I'll definitely check it out thanks!
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Originally Posted by jasonrobo02
(Post 751697)
Most of the users here run the bone stock ebay kits without any part swapping. Those kits really are a great deal. With the number of kits those guys are selling to the miata community, it's a wonder they haven't increased prices.
Jeff is one of the few that don't run the ebay kit. He pretty much bashes them every chance he gets and tries to push noobs toward his favorite kit, the FFS coldside kit. EVERYONE. |
Originally Posted by jasonrobo02
(Post 751702)
Does that one hit the block?
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 751709)
Turbo not hit block.
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Jeff what does your kit run for and what does it come with?
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That's the ilovetacotaco kit from ebay. The pics on ebay don't look like that because they are generic pictures. Jeff's picture is the actual kit. I went with the FM kit but it doesn't make the power I want....so I'll be upgrading to the ilovetacotaco kit when I get my tax return next year.
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I really hope you arent taking these guys seriously. Ill help you cause I see you are from CT and we need more turbo miatas.
DONT even look at any ebay "kits". Hell, most of the people on this forum dont even have "kits" . We usually piece together our turbo projects. Do your research, learn your car, and PLEASE stop taking everything people say on this forum as truth. They love fucking with people like you who actually are stupid enough to ask this question. |
Thanks lol! Well right now I have $1500 to play with, I just want a 300whp setup comfortably! I'm all alone out here, all of my friends are Honda and Nissan lovers and they all help eachother out and make fun of me cuz I chose to.do a miata. I like civics and sentras but I see them too much so I decided to be different so if I knew someone with a miata it would help out!
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$1500 wont get you into the 300hp range with any sort of reliability.
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Now that the cat's out of the bag, you shoudl really search a bit. This forum has some great sticky's that will educate you on what to look for in a kit or diy turbo project. 300hp as a goal is a bit lofty, especially for $1500. Talk to some locals and maybe get some rides in 150, 200, 250 hp miatas so you can better hone your goals.
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Yea shuiend that's what I kinda figured that's why I was basically asking if any one made anything close with an eBay kit on a good tune lol!
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Yea Jasonrobo02 I get it this is why I usually stay quiet on forums!
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People hardly make it 500 miles without the ebay manifold cracking and breaking. Here is proof.
You keep talking about a "good tune". To me a good tune is dropping $750-$2500 on engine management and then another $400-$1000 on dyno time. What engine management are you using? Also what motor do you have? A stock motor will probably not hold 300whp for to long reliably. Savington at TSE says for a reliable 300hp expect to spend 10k on the motor and turbo setup. |
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LOL, I posted this in honor of you, and our unforgetable afternoon at your apartment. ;)
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I have a rebuilt 1.8 motor with carillo rods, wiseco pistons, and acl rod bearings. It's not much but it should be able to push 400 but I only want 300whp. I'm still undecided about engine management but when I come across that road I'm debating on spending 600 on ms or 1000 on aem either way I want it to be stand alone! I was gonna bring the car to a guy out in philly to do a complete fine tune for $600 but this is all eventually after I find a decent turbo kit. I will stay away from the eBay kits though thanks for the warning!
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What is your time frame to have the car boosted? If it doesnt have to be right away you can just save up and piece together a real nice setup. You can have a nice manifold and downpipe made where you wont have to worry about cracking.
I had Abe at ARTech do my hot side and I love it, just starring at it makes me happy. TurboTim also does really nice work. I know there are a few others that will make you what you want as well. And there have been quite a few part outs lately, just keep your eyes open in the for sale section and you can end up with a really good used kit for a good price. Then you just work on engine management. |
Lars, stop with the misinformation...we all know tacotaconothitblocks are perfectly good for 300rwhp.
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Originally Posted by Bond
(Post 751766)
LOL, I posted this in honor of you, and our unforgetable afternoon at your apartment. ;)
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Originally Posted by Eunos93
(Post 751806)
I have a rebuilt 1.8 motor with carillo rods, wiseco pistons, and acl rod bearings. It's not much but it should be able to push 400 but I only want 300whp. I'm still undecided about engine management but when I come across that road I'm debating on spending 600 on ms or 1000 on aem either way I want it to be stand alone! I was gonna bring the car to a guy out in philly to do a complete fine tune for $600 but this is all eventually after I find a decent turbo kit. I will stay away from the eBay kits though thanks for the warning!
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OP if you want 300whp and only have 1500 you should look into direct ---- injection
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Or a 150shot from a bottle. It really is the best bang for the buck mod.
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It's ok I already made a deal with someone its not what I wanted but its good enough to start out with. It's a used kit with EVERYTHING I need to get it running including cast iron mani, injectors and fuel pump and fmu for $1800. It's a small setup I may not make 300whp but ill be close so I appreciate everyones input even the jokes helped out lol! I'll be boosted soon enough!
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Doppleganger that miata in the pic is pure sex!
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Originally Posted by Eunos93
(Post 751894)
It's ok I already made a deal with someone its not what I wanted but its good enough to start out with. It's a used kit with EVERYTHING I need to get it running including cast iron mani, injectors and fuel pump and fmu for $1800. It's a small setup I may not make 300whp but ill be close so I appreciate everyones input even the jokes helped out lol! I'll be boosted soon enough!
If you got a knockoff/ebay kit I'm going to laugh my ass off. |
No eBay kit its this guy named kid from around my area he been doin miatas for years now all he does is spec racing. He's gonna sell me his kit I was just confused on if I should go brand new eBay kit or his used kit
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That comes with everything!
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Originally Posted by Eunos93
(Post 751914)
No eBay kit its this guy named kid from around my area he been doin miatas for years now all he does is spec racing. He's gonna sell me his kit I was just confused on if I should go brand new eBay kit or his used kit
Give us some details so we (ok, THEY) can make sure you don't have anything that will pop your motor. Pending the above details, good job on going used and lowering your expectations. I got a ride in a 260hp Turbo Miata a week ago and it was absolutely stupid. I am buying most of rider384's setup this weekend and my megasquirt arrived yesterday, so I imagine in a couple months I will be turbo as well. Take your time, learn to tune your engine management. Make sure you aren't running any band-aids. Go to an autocross event put on by a local Miata club. Get a ride with a few guys there that have turbo or supercharged miatas. You will have a new perspective. |
Who cares about details. Its a kit dawgggg
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It's a t3/t4 turbo with a custom made manifold, with 311cc injectors, 255 walbro pump intercooler and piping, feed and return lines with fittings, fmu, and down pipe! Thanx for the info chiburbian ill check some of them out!
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If it is a custom made manifold then it is not cast. You need to slow down and research more. You spent god knows how much on a built motor, so why are you so cheap with the turbo parts. I personally have your whole budget in just my manifold and downpipe alone and am not at 300hp yet.
Basically, you need to stop being cheap and do more research and buy quality parts. |
Yea i might have too just piece it together!
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If you buy parts off the shelf, 300whp will cost you 10k. Stop looking on eBay for turbo parts, start looking through build threads from me, hustler, shuiend, anyone with an absurdflow kit. A 180whp miata is subaru sti fast. 300whp is C6Z06 territory. 200whp will shut your friends up in a hurry, and its a lot cheaper to do 200 reliably. |
310s and an fmu, nice. You'll struggle to break 200whp safely on that. In fact, since you have no timing control, you'll just grenade it at 160 or so.
Stop buying crap parts and search. This forum and its members are highly, highly knowledgeable, but if you"re going to ignore our advice then you won't last long. |
Savington you're probably right he told I wouldnt make 300whp with his kit so eventually I would have to get bigger injectors, stand alone ecu and a nice tune maybe even a bigger turbo but I will have fun with his kit it made over 200whp as is. But like they say go big or go home so I'm gonna put together a nice setup over time I guess!
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Rider384 has a Megasquirt 1 with harness. $250. Buy it. Thank me later.
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Originally Posted by Eunos93
(Post 752130)
Savington you're probably right he told I wouldnt make 300whp with his kit
Originally Posted by Eunos93
(Post 752130)
But like they say go big or go home so I'm gonna put together a nice setup over time I guess!
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 751964)
A 180whp miata is subaru sti fast. 300whp is C6Z06 territory. 200whp will shut your friends up in a hurry, and its a lot cheaper to do 200 reliably. Off the topic, but a 180whp Miata is hardly an STI territory with the right driver and neither is a 300whp is C6Z06 territory again with the same drivers. Posts like these really explain why every other Civic, Sentra and more of the same bunch always want to race my Z06 on the street. |
You seriously created an account just to say that?
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No, he just waited 4 years to say it.
And I agree. A 180HP Miata is fast, but you still won't be beating the pants off of the turbo Carreras. |
Quiet everyone. Someone with gray hair is here to stroke his e-cock in front of us.
Um, excuse me sir, your bald spot is blinding everyone here wanting a point-by. Mmkay, thanks. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 775223)
Quiet everyone. Someone with gray hair is here to stroke his e-cock in front of us.
Um, excuse me sir, your bald spot is blinding everyone here wanting a point-by. Mmkay, thanks. this was hilarious also I want to build a 1.8 with 170+whp what would you guys compare that too. keep in mind i'm no racer i just want the extra power/ torque when i drive |
lambo territory.
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that sounds about right :BSmeter:
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Find power to weight ratio with simple division and find list of cars arranged by power to weight to compare to.
He didn't say which Lambo. It would certainly be faster than a Miura. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 774981)
No, he just waited 4 years to say it.
And I agree. A 180HP Miata is fast, but you still won't be beating the pants off of the turbo Carreras. |
FMU WILL GET YOU 300whp NO PROB
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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
(Post 806634)
lambo territory.
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I read that you can design a special manifold for a Miata and it will sound exactly like a Subaru boxer motor... something about the resonances.
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Originally Posted by triple88a
(Post 807338)
Now only if i can get my NB to sound like the Lambo Countach :drool:.
(You see what I did there? I'm making fun of the poor reliability of the Countach by indirectly asserting that they make no sound at all because they never run. I am so very clever.) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1324101980 |
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