6pt Harness
 

https://www.braumracing.com/product/...rness-black/##

Was about to order up a Scroth Profi II-6 Then found these. Has anyone ever seen/used them before. they look like they have decent components for a cheaper price

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c62b741b3f.jpg

Uhhhhhh, what a shitty website. They don't even have basic specs!

Basic info you should have when selling a reputable harness:

• What size belts.
• What homologations -> "FIA / SFI-rated" doesn't really tell me much... there are multiple SFI and FIA specs.
• What are the adjusters? pull-up/pull-down/user selectable?

They appear to be 3" lap and 3" shoulder belts. I would advise against that. The 2" lap belts are proven to be safer and they also hold you tighter. The 2" shoulder belts are also much preferred (or 3"->2"), assuming you are using a head and neck restraint, and you SHOULD be using one with a racing harness. If you wait a couple months, the new 8853-2016 FIA spec allow straight 2" shoulder belts. I talked with HMS Motorsports (the US Schroth distributor) at PRI and they expect to get the 2x2 belts in March.

My personal recommendation is:
https://www.schroth.com/en/segments/...profi-2x2.html

3" lap is a terrible idea. 3" shoulder belts work OK with a HANS, but are somewhat fiddly to align properly on the collar -- 2" is definitely better.

Safety gear for on-track use is not an area in which you want to save a few bucks by going with an unknown brand.

--ian

I plan to go with the scroth so the plan won't change. Is there any benefit of the 3'' shoulder straps despite being a pain with a hans device

3" is better for non-HANS use because it spreads the load over a larger portion of your chest. With a HANS that's not an issue (the HANS does the load spreading), and now that HANS have become significantly cheaper, nobody recommends running a 6-point harness without one any more.

--Ian

Took a bit for my brain to click. Ill wait and get that harness that seems to be the best of both worlds.

Braums is mad tyte JDM yo stuff as far as I can tell.

Icky icky gross gross ctrl z that thing. Undo. Undo. Backpedal. Hit computer with hammer. Phew the rice patties are gone now

inexpensive and SFI rated 6pt harnesses are made by RJS and G-Force. RJS/Crow can customize them any way you want including Dog Bone shoulders for HANS (or just buy a pre-build config from Summit). I personally always liked Crow's - quality stuff and are located here in California. Yes, they are not as fancy as Schroth, but still quality stuff and very simple, but attractive designs.

Said it before, I'll say it again. Use a Crow or G-Force or any other belt, then use a Schroth. You'll understand why they are better. Better adjusters, better latches, better design, more comfortable, easier to adjust.

100x this. I never knew what I was missing until I drove a friends Schroth equipped car........it's absolutely worth the extra cost. And it's really pretty marginal in the grand scheme of a decently built track car.

Ok, then a follow up question - does this apply to all Schroth products or only high end ones?

For example $250 basic Schroth 6pt harness delivered will have those features? When i look at harnesses, sites rarely go into detail of why this particular brand or model is better than the competition. I've only used Sparco and Crow so far, so have no first hand experience with Schroth.

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motor...saloon-harness

From what I've been able to find, Clubman uses steel buckles and (maybe) a different latching mechanism.

The Sabelt is running a sale. I believe this is for driver and passenger pricing.

The difference between the clubman and profit is steel vs aluminum hardware and the profile has a tee bar sub strap

Am I just dumb, or does Schroth not offer a 5 point harness?

If you don't want to spend the money on Schroth Enduro or Profi, then buy these:

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motor...-harness-black
http://rally.build/sparco-endurance-...point-harness/

The webbing and adjusters are high quality, they have 2" lap belts, and they have the lap adjusters built into the tang just like the $500+ Schroth Enduro. IMO they're the best harnesses available right now for the money. I'm personally still willing to spend the extra for the Schroths because of the added comfort of the Schroth sub straps, but those Sparcos are a hell of a deal. I have a set of Schroth Enduro belts in my NB endurance car and a set of the Sparcos in my NC street car that only sees a few track days a year.

Looks like they also have a new all-2" version, but the sub-strap T-bar looks super uncomfortable.
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motor...ce-6-point-fhr

Another good option that I've never seen before. These have nicer lap belt adjusters (equal to Schroth) and a better T-bar design than the Sparcos. TRS isn't popular in the US but they're used on lots of pro-level cars in Europe. I think these are my new favorite budget harness.

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motor...ns-fhr-harness

You guys are the best (worst?) at getting me to spend more on safety gear.

I guess my 3" Racequips can go to the passenger side now...