spoolin2bars

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It's easy, just setup a website, or forum, or even just a thread (on this site for instance). Get everyone together on the rules, classing etc.. Post the next event your gonna piggyback. Here in Texas we ran during NASA weekends. We were doing Miata Challenge, so most of us were in TT. But some were just doing HPDE, just needed to rent or buy a transponder for lap times. We would meet up after the event, call out our class winners and hand out trophies. Done deal. What's the issue?

emilio700

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+1

All it takes is a bit of communication, a few people to set the schedule and coordinate. Most Miata owners with helmets and roll bars are not luddites so a FB group works well. That's what we use for MC and SPM in Socal.

With the loss of a formal national championship with NASA, there is less and less reason to run with them. It's expensive just for the track time, 4 meetings a day etc. More expensive if you actually want to be competitive in class. And oh those $5 plastic trophies. The deep competition I hoped for in PT never materialized. It only exists in SM but you have to be OK with a smashed up car, running against cheaters and building a gutless underdamped $35k Miata for that. To be fair, I'm partly to blame for the lack of good competition in PTE on the west coast. We scared all the RX7's out and few Miatas are willing to buy sticker SM6's for every weekend like we did.

So yeah, SPM is what virtually all the SoCal PTE/PTD and a few SM's will run in 2014. The leftover cash will go towards beer and keeping the wife/GF happy.

z31maniac

I've realized something similar as well.

All I really care about is going to the track, hanging out, and having a good time. I'm just going to build the car the way I want, run with different groups and different track and just enjoy it.

Seefo

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so you guys asked for a session sometime during the day to run the event? or where you guys taking laptimes through out the day in each person's signed-up DE/TT and using those for MC?

Red_5

Yup
Well Andrew was the first to really scare off the PTE RX-7s while you were still in PTC. You, William and Sonny put the nail in that coffin.

The tire situation is a big part of my trying out SPM this season. That and the company.
Yup

hustler

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PTE is a great place to meat dudes.

LowFlyin'

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You'd know all about that wouldn't you, hot stuff?

EricJ

Hustler, you may not have to meat (sic) dudes in PTE. There's a BRZ signed up for TTD at MSR-H.

ericwh

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Is vvt still the best choice for PTE starting with a 1.6?

emilio700

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Dyno classed 90-00, NB2 engine. 99-00 points classed NB1 engine will be faster though. 01-05 chassis had so much weight added that it's no longer a viable option.

Red_5

I thought they added weight too and maybe they had but NB2s are currently 2400. They did get the dreaded PTE* base class, that seven points hurts.

emilio700

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You're right. Points penalty, not weight. Same effect. The 01-05 Miata is effectively banninated.

ericwh

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If penalizing the VVT motor wouldn't that same penalty be applied to a dyno reclass of a 1.6 chassis with the VVT motor?

Looking at appendix C the penalty for VVT seems to be 15 lbs given the same HP...

Savington

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The penalty for a VVT motor in a 1.6 chassis is indeed 15lbs. The 2001-2005 chassis was given a +7pt penalty. If you're wondering where the logic in PTE rules lies, you're going to be searching for that answer for a very long time

jpreston

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Has anyone asked for a dyno reclass on an 01-05 car? My assumption was that the 01-05 cars got the extra star because of the proven ability to hit the class pwr/wt limit on a points class, with very few points. I'd imagine that he'll still give an 01-05 car a dyno reclass that's competitive in E and in line with other VVT swapped cars.

A points-classed 99-00 car is still a bit of an overdog, though. I'd imagine it will get moved to an E* @ 2385lb base class as soon as someone exploits that loophole and builds a blueprinted E85ed points-classed car.

emilio700

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So do it. I'm not. Sonny's car is for sale and I think Andrew is busy with other stuff. Just don't debut the car before west/seat coast champs or it'll get 949'd.

jpreston

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I would consider it if I already had a 99-00 car, but I'm too much of a cheapass to build one specifically for nationals and still maybe get DQed.

Plus, if I were building a one-race nationals special, it wouldn't be a miata. Miatas are super competitive and have probably the best fun/dollar ratio of anything at a NASA weekend, but there are a few other cars that have never been built and could dominate for a few races before getting re-classed.

Efini~FC3S

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Silly easterner, you have no idea what you're talking about

jpreston

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Red_5

I'll sell you my '99 for a lot less than it would cost to build. It was developed as a points classed PTE car. I think it's a fast car, has Xidas, blueprinted engine . . . never had a fast driver and a good setup.