I'll definitely take you up on that when I'm good and ready ;)
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Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1063971)
V: My offer still stands to loan you my spare VICS manifold when you get around to testing the VTCS vs Squaretop. I'd be nice to see all 3 on the same testbed with some 100kpa+ data
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1063974)
I'll definitely take you up on that when I'm good and ready ;)
Thanks If we really want to go crazy depending on when 18PSI does his testing, I might be willing to offer up my BEGI cast manifold for use. Only issues I know off the top of my head would be a different TPS and idle valves. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1063967)
haha ok valid point
Exactly. I think most the street/daily driver VICS guys don't really even need this thing. Heck, even the VTCS guys don't really need one for the street (and one of the reasons I'm going to try using my vtcs mani at 1st and only switch to the squaretop if I'm unhappy with it). The track guys love this cause its OEM, bolts right up, and actually holds together unlike some of the honda mani's we've seen. And those running setups that make serious top end power obviously want it too because the stocker chokes up pretty dramatically (at least the vtcs does) past 300 or so. |
Am i learning in this thread that the VCTS manifold sucks and i should gut the system?
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1064305)
Am i learning in this thread that the VCTS manifold sucks and i should gut the system?
VICS = Variable Inertia Charging System = alters plenum volume and Helmholz frequency to improve midrange torque. Keep this, it's good. VTCS = Variable Tumble Control System = improves intake charge tumble at low RPM/low CLTs to improve cold-start emissions. This is pure smog garbage, remove it at once. |
Yeah, typo, my apologies.
I knew VICS was good. Had it on my Escort. Never bothered to worry about VTCS, but I guess I may as well gut it this Spring before I get tuned for corm. What gains should I see removing it? |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1063997)
This is part of the reason why I love mt.net, the fact that we will share parts just get testing done is great.
If we really want to go crazy depending on when 18PSI does his testing, I might be willing to offer up my BEGI cast manifold for use. Only issues I know off the top of my head would be a different TPS and idle valves. I plan to do a test day soon, in about a month is my guess? I plan to test several intake manifolds on the same day. I would love to test your manifold as well, maybe you can come up? I will leave the car on the dyno and change manifolds before testing again in hopes of usable data. Maybe you will extend your offer to me as well? |
oh snap that would be awesome
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Originally Posted by Amellrotts
(Post 1065420)
Lars,
I plan to do a test day soon, in about a month is my guess? I plan to test several intake manifolds on the same day. I would love to test your manifold as well, maybe you can come up? I will leave the car on the dyno and change manifolds before testing again in hopes of usable data. Maybe you will extend your offer to me as well? |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1065517)
you think they'll appreciate coolant all over their dyno?
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I is such a pussy but see no reason it means I have to get coolant everywhere. I will have all my manifolds set to take the OEM TB and will use the 64mm Skunks TB so I will use the same TB for all the tests......at least that is my current plan.
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Originally Posted by Amellrotts
(Post 1065537)
I is such a pussy but see no reason it means I have to get coolant everywhere. I will have all my manifolds set to take the OEM TB and will use the 64mm Skunks TB so I will use the same TB for all the tests......at least that is my current plan.
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oh is there no coolant port between the runners on the BPZ3?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1065539)
oh is there no coolant port between the runners on the BPZ3?
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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1065542)
Not that I recall, I think thats a 1.6 thing. :giggle:
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What about the fuel line routing? Doesn't that go between the runners?
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Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
(Post 1065556)
What about the fuel line routing? Doesn't that go between the runners?
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The BP6D Chris will be running doesn't have any stupid coolant ports in the IM. And if he's smart he will already have looped the stupid TB coolant lines (or will do that prior to dyno time). Nothing else will prevent him from being able to carefully remove just the IM and nothing else and replace it. Been there done that.
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Originally Posted by Amellrotts
(Post 1065420)
Lars,
I plan to do a test day soon, in about a month is my guess? I plan to test several intake manifolds on the same day. I would love to test your manifold as well, maybe you can come up? I will leave the car on the dyno and change manifolds before testing again in hopes of usable data. Maybe you will extend your offer to me as well? |
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I know with my square top I had to hog it out to match the Skunk TB. The size difference is pretty noticeable.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382465456 I have one square top gasket matched to the Skunk TB/ports and one that is left alone. If you want a hand, or another manifold(s) to play with hit me up. Depending on schedules I might make the trip over your way. Wife will probably send me with food as well. Can't do dyno on empty stomachs. |
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