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falcon 09-06-2010 10:46 PM

These bars look like the old ones... and it was on miatacage's website.

http://www.miatacage.com/images/Righ...138060c4e93cd6

Savington 09-07-2010 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 626458)
You mean like Snowboarder's? They're flat


That car is white, TSB's car is silver, and that's not a TC cage. My bars curve up very slightly and TSB and I have the same cage (with exception to the door bars).

Honestly, if you can stand 12 hours towing down and you can find a place to stay for a week, I'd make the drive to TC. I don't think I've ever seen a nicer cage than the ones Tony builds.

curly 09-07-2010 04:42 AM

I thought I quoted a picture of TSB's car, I know the white one is from MC.com.

You forgot to add in the price of the cage and install on top of the tow and hotel.

Edit: yup I'm dumb, that there is a white car.

falcon 09-07-2010 01:12 PM

Ya you did post the snowboarders car.

And I emailed miatacage.com. $1100 for the cage with different door bars, and he said on average $1000 worth of labour to install. That right there puts it a few hundred more than what Snowboarder said a TC cage costs. So I can spend that cash on a place for a few days and travel/gas costs.

On problem, is I don't have a truck or trailer. So I would have to drive the car down with my mini trailer behind with my scooter or R6 on it. I could even bring my tires down and do a track day at Laguna after :D...

Gotpsi? 09-07-2010 09:37 PM

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Just for the sake of real door bars.
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hey sav how about some cool pics of yours.

ApexOnYou 09-07-2010 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by falcon (Post 626485)
These bars look like the old ones... and it was on miatacage's website.

http://www.miatacage.com/images/Righ...138060c4e93cd6

Nah those are NASCAR bars that protrude into the door.

falcon 09-07-2010 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Gotpsi? (Post 626910)
Just for the sake of real door bars.
http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/o...x/IMG_1798.jpg
http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/o...x/IMG_1797.jpg
hey sav how about some cool pics of yours.

mmmm.... those are nice. Too bad I can't get that much room between the bar and seat.

Savington 09-08-2010 03:27 AM

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Lots of room inside the car, I use the bar as an armrest when I'm in the pits.

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Lots of headroom to the side bar, it tucks up very close to an OEM hardtop. My cage was built to fit under an OE hardtop just in case.

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This is the only cage I've ever been in where I feel comfortable using the dead pedal. Every other car has a full pad there and it makes the dead pedal useless.

Gotpsi? 09-08-2010 11:34 AM

Nice I wish I had the leg room you do,I didn't notice that when I rode in your car but can see how that would help out a lot when driving. I notice mine when waiting on grid I have to keep my foot on the clutch pedal.

falcon 09-08-2010 12:07 PM

I like that front down tube mount. Is that a TC cage as well Sav?

thesnowboarder 09-08-2010 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by falcon (Post 627104)
I like that front down tube mount. Is that a TC cage as well Sav?

Yes, dead pedal and leg room is key IMO.

Savington 09-08-2010 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by falcon (Post 627104)
I like that front down tube mount. Is that a TC cage as well Sav?

Yes, it is. Standard cage with standard NASCAR bars and a crossbar under the dash.

thesnowboarder 09-09-2010 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 627211)
Yes, it is. Standard cage with standard NASCAR bars and a crossbar under the dash.

Doooooode, please take a vacuum and a wet rag to your interior. That's hideous!

thesnowboarder 09-09-2010 12:33 AM

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More pictures to show the cage and its doorbars. Remember, this cage WITH its doorbars had working windows for a while. It was maybe an inch or so away from the doorbars with the door closed. This is the standard TC design fab cage with the addition of nascar style door bars on the passenger side. I also had TC weld together the stock crossbar to the "down tubes?" that go down the A piller.

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Gotpsi? 09-09-2010 11:21 AM

I bet those green pedals add 10hp ;)

thesnowboarder 09-09-2010 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Gotpsi? (Post 627483)
I bet those green pedals add 10hp ;)

you know it :laugh:

shlammed 09-09-2010 03:31 PM

does anyone have a full cage and a soft top?

i.e. can you run those buckles with the cross bar at the windsheild in place?

curly 09-09-2010 07:01 PM

No. That's why SM hardtop brackets exist. Look three posts up in the second to last picture, there's no way a stock bracket would work with that bar.

k2- 10-04-2010 09:05 PM

Where's a good cage shop in Southern CA?

njn63 10-04-2010 09:42 PM

Old miatacage door bars (passenger side):
http://www.heddev.com/miatacage/imag...0Side%20XL.jpg
http://www.heddev.com/miatacage/images/WCPass%20XL.jpg

I don't understand why you wouldn't just use window clips and do real bars though if the car will be full track within a year.

rabyrab 11-11-2010 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by k2- (Post 638767)
Where's a good cage shop in Southern CA?

Im looking for a local skilled welder in LA too!

qax 11-17-2010 12:08 AM

here's some info i found from my research:

alex pfeiffer @ battle version
http://battleversion.com/

415 235 9929
18320 bedford circle
la puente, ca 91744

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John Coffey, Beta Motorsports in La Habra
http://www.betamotorsports.com/

714-299-4000
637 South Palm Street, Suite G
La Habra, CA 90631
USA

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L-Con Racecars, LLC
http://www.l-con.net/default.cfm

630. S. jefferson St. Suite C
Placentia CA. 92870

(714)572-4130 Office

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here's couple more:
http://paladinmotorsports.com/
http://www.piercemotorsports.com/
http://www.designcraftfab.com/

and 7s only racing @ buttonwillow

moonshadowmetals 12-22-2010 05:42 PM

A Late question from a noob...
 
Is the only reason no one can mount a soft top due to the way the top latches to the windshild frame?

Hope someone is listening...

Savington 12-22-2010 10:12 PM

Depends on cage design - the top folding mechanism may interfere with the bars in some places on some cages too.

Hardtops are faster anyway. ;)

moonshadowmetals 12-23-2010 10:28 AM

Hard tops look better anyway.
By the way Mr. Sav, what catigory do most of the people on this site compete in. When I llok at the pic of your miata I am not sure which SCCA catagory you would fall into. Do most people only do track days?

curly 12-23-2010 10:52 AM

Track days or time attacks. Rules for that are: build the fastest fucking car you can. One timed lap is all that counts, with hardly any consideration of consistency. I believe one of the reasons he went this route was he realized how short his range was once he upped the power. 2-3mpg in a higher horsepower turbo miata is 15 laps at my local circuit, using ALL of the Miata's 11.9 gallons. At a reasonable 1:20 time, that's 19.95 minutes of run time, which is shy of ONE typical session at a track day. Boggles the mind really, I was using about a third of a tank pre-turbo per session.

Different factors like engine size, tires selection, and the amount you've stripped your car put you in different categories, such as street, prepared, and unlimited. Other than that it's fairly vague compared to some SCCA/NASA groups.

Feel free to correct any errors in my explanation Sav.

moonshadowmetals 12-23-2010 12:08 PM

I have been lurking for a short time now and am amazed at what you guys have done to your miatas. Mine is STOCK, right now. I hope to turbo it with a small turbo (DSM). Work on the susepension. And maybe start out doing AutoX here in Vegas. Eventually I hope to have a SSM/SCCA capable miata.
My background is offroad so building cages etc. is not a problem. In other words, short on money but long on personal time.
Thanks for the reply. Trying to learn who is into what, and what they have done that works, and how to apply it for my eventual application.

triple88a 10-08-2011 12:52 AM

Why keep the dash if you go this far?


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